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Chances are if IT upgrade her browser she won't even notice. Just get them to do it. Or get someone more senior than her to put her in her place.

reaperducer 8y ago
Just get them to do it. It's not a tech company, so it doesn't work that way. IT doesn't tell management what to do, it's the other way around. get someone more senior than her to put her in her place To get to someone more senior than her would mean contacting her manager on the other side of the country, who would likely wonder why I'm was wasting her time, and come down on me through my boss. Again, it's not a tech company.
- jccalhoun 8y ago
  it would be a shame if something happened to her computer and it had to be replaced...
  - VMG 8y ago
    Highly unethical
    - sjwright 8y ago
      Hilarious that the HN audience decided that the parent comment was worthy of down-votes! Ethics? Pah, we're IT professionals.
      - jjoonathan 8y ago
        Ethics swing both ways.
        sjwright 8y ago
        I wasn't saying it doesn't. I wasn't saying anything remotely like that. Someone was downvoted for the normally unremarkable observation that intentional sabotage is unethical. I thought that this community response was hilarious and worthy of remark. If it "swings both ways," I would be most interested in an opinion about the "other way" if you're willing to offer it.
    - knewter 8y ago
      you're not going to enjoy Bastard Operator from Hell
      - VMG 8y ago
        I enjoy Quake but not Quake IRL
  - justwalt 8y ago
    “What’s this in my computer? What’s a USB killer?”
- reificator 8y ago
  > who would likely wonder why I'm was wasting her time At which point you show how much money is being thrown away here.
  - reaperducer 8y ago
    At which point you show how much money is being thrown away here. You assume that wasting a few days of my time will cost the company more than me wasting her time. Remember, this person is probably seven or eight steps higher than me in the org chart. This is a large organization, not some startup.
    - Aeolun 8y ago
      If you are spending days, and the person is spending 10 minutes, that might actually work out in your favor. Also, 7 or 8 steps in any org chart is insane. It’s more likely to cost a ton of money if someone hacks her browser/OS though.
  - twblalock 8y ago
    This is somebody who successfully refuses to let IT upgrade her computer. That means she has a huge level of power in the organization and feels entitled to disregard policy. Do you honestly believe she cares about the IT department wasting a little bit of money (and it really is just a little bit relative to what she probably deals with), or would respond well to an IT guy pointing out his salary in an attempt to convince her to upgrade her computer? The advice you gave is more likely to get someone fired than it is to help.
    - vlovich123 8y ago
      She seems like she's an easy attack vector into the company network. Is her computer also completely firewalled off from anything important or does the company not care about breaches?
    - deytempo 8y ago
      Either that or “IT” is someone who doesn’t feel qualified enough to be assertive in their position. If I was this “IT” person, I would explain to the individual that there was a critical vulnerability found which will not be patched and then print up a liability waver form for them to sign and date, stating that they are doing this on their own terms and I cannot be held responsible should anything go wrong.
- bobske3 8y ago
  "IE11 is not supported.".. why? it's something technical... IT might be lowest in the foodchain, but they always have the last word when it comes to something.. technical.
- peteretep 8y ago
  > It's not a tech company, so it doesn't work that way. IT doesn't tell management what to do No, but IT come and say "in order to get ISO313186461 certified we need to do an upgrade" tends to work pretty well.
JustSomeNobody 8y ago
Better to ask her why she feels she needs that version and work with her to move beyond it.

reaperducer 8y ago

Just get them to do it. It's not a tech company, so it doesn't work that way. IT doesn't tell management what to do, it's the other way around. get someone more senior than her to put her in her place To get to someone more senior than her would mean contacting her manager on the other side of the country, who would likely wonder why I'm was wasting her time, and come down on me through my boss. Again, it's not a tech company.

jccalhoun 8y ago
it would be a shame if something happened to her computer and it had to be replaced...
- VMG 8y ago
  Highly unethical
  - sjwright 8y ago
    Hilarious that the HN audience decided that the parent comment was worthy of down-votes! Ethics? Pah, we're IT professionals.
    - jjoonathan 8y ago
      Ethics swing both ways.
      - sjwright 8y ago
        I wasn't saying it doesn't. I wasn't saying anything remotely like that. Someone was downvoted for the normally unremarkable observation that intentional sabotage is unethical. I thought that this community response was hilarious and worthy of remark. If it "swings both ways," I would be most interested in an opinion about the "other way" if you're willing to offer it.
  - knewter 8y ago
    you're not going to enjoy Bastard Operator from Hell
    - VMG 8y ago
      I enjoy Quake but not Quake IRL
- justwalt 8y ago
  “What’s this in my computer? What’s a USB killer?”
reificator 8y ago
> who would likely wonder why I'm was wasting her time At which point you show how much money is being thrown away here.
- reaperducer 8y ago
  At which point you show how much money is being thrown away here. You assume that wasting a few days of my time will cost the company more than me wasting her time. Remember, this person is probably seven or eight steps higher than me in the org chart. This is a large organization, not some startup.
  - Aeolun 8y ago
    If you are spending days, and the person is spending 10 minutes, that might actually work out in your favor. Also, 7 or 8 steps in any org chart is insane. It’s more likely to cost a ton of money if someone hacks her browser/OS though.
- twblalock 8y ago
  This is somebody who successfully refuses to let IT upgrade her computer. That means she has a huge level of power in the organization and feels entitled to disregard policy. Do you honestly believe she cares about the IT department wasting a little bit of money (and it really is just a little bit relative to what she probably deals with), or would respond well to an IT guy pointing out his salary in an attempt to convince her to upgrade her computer? The advice you gave is more likely to get someone fired than it is to help.
  - vlovich123 8y ago
    She seems like she's an easy attack vector into the company network. Is her computer also completely firewalled off from anything important or does the company not care about breaches?
  - deytempo 8y ago
    Either that or “IT” is someone who doesn’t feel qualified enough to be assertive in their position. If I was this “IT” person, I would explain to the individual that there was a critical vulnerability found which will not be patched and then print up a liability waver form for them to sign and date, stating that they are doing this on their own terms and I cannot be held responsible should anything go wrong.
bobske3 8y ago
"IE11 is not supported.".. why? it's something technical... IT might be lowest in the foodchain, but they always have the last word when it comes to something.. technical.
peteretep 8y ago
> It's not a tech company, so it doesn't work that way. IT doesn't tell management what to do No, but IT come and say "in order to get ISO313186461 certified we need to do an upgrade" tends to work pretty well.

JustSomeNobody 8y ago

Better to ask her why she feels she needs that version and work with her to move beyond it.