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Almost. I started the process—downloaded all my data, etc. Unfortunately, I couldn’t go through with it for reasons I’m embarrassed to admit: 1. One entire sid

Almost. I started the process—downloaded all my data, etc. Unfortunately, I couldn’t go through with it for reasons I’m embarrassed to admit: 1. One entire side of my extended family relies on it for all familial communications. I was forced to use Facebook Messenger recently to help with wedding planning, for example. These people are addicted to it an have invested everything in it—Facebook knows their entire lives. 2. People post pictures of me on Facebook despite my objections. Continuously. They tag me—despite my objections. With an account, I can make it difficult for an average person to find photos of me. 3. I have zero faith that Facebook will stop tracking me, storing my data, or doing stuff I don’t want them to do if I delete my account. I have zero faith that they’d stop even if I got a court order. I know several people who work at various positions in Facebook. Every time they talk about the company, it sounds worse and worse. I’m slowly transitioning from, “They’re just another big data miner,” to, “They’re a truly evil company that goes out of their way to be deceptive and would sell their soul—no, my soul—for a cheeseburger.”

hkai 8y ago
Why delete though? Just keep it inactive. I use my account maybe like a few times a year, as well as a couple of fake accounts for logins to other sites. I think it will hurt more if you don't delete the account but don't use it much because it reduces revenue per user, or ad views per user.
unicornporn 8y ago
> I couldn’t go through with it for reasons I’m embarrassed to admit Quitting Facebook may not a choice without severe consequences. I'm lucky enough to be able to stay away from Facebook, but I know everyone isn't in the same position. It's important to acknowledge that Facebook is inextricably intertwined with many peoples professional and social lives. Your workplace may require you to Workplace by Facebook for collaboration. The parents group at your childs school may only communicate via Facebook. Perhaps the bachelors party of a dear friend may be planned via Facebook. Embarrassment is the last thing you should feel for being trapped by this tyrant.
- shock 8y ago
  > Quitting Facebook may not a choice without severe consequences You know you're living in a time of peace when not having Facebook is considered to have severe consequences.
  - bigiain 8y ago
    Or it's indicative of the battlefields of the (very near) future...
    - LUmBULtERA 8y ago
      Or both.
- gaius 8y ago
  It's important to acknowledge that Facebook is inextricably intertwined with many peoples professional and social lives This is true but also it wasn’t that long ago that going out for a smoke break was vital for people’s professional and social lives
echelon 8y ago
> People post pictures of me on Facebook despite my objections. We need to make legislation against this. I know taking pictures in public places is fair game. I also know celebrities are subject to having this information published due to the public nature of their lives. But for those wanting to live private lives, we should be able to ban tagging or indexing and sue those parties that enable this to happen without consent.
- kaybe 8y ago
  It's not fair game in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Italy at least, unless you're a person of public interest. I'm not sure how Facebook handles that. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recht_am_eigenen_Bild https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recht_am_eigenen_Bild (sorry, no English)
  - jolmg 8y ago
    If I look in google for pictures of those places there are plenty of people in them. I'm talking pictures of streets full of people or cool looking buildings with lots of people sitting around in the grass. I don't imagine the photographer went to talk to each person all the way to the horizon to ask permission, and I imagine, in the time one sets up the camera, multiple people probably enter and leave the view. There really is no practical way to take pictures of these places without people unless you get the help of authorities to close off these spaces and get everyone out of the way. So how do these laws work?
    - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recht_am_eigenen_Bild_(Deutschland)#Personen_als_Beiwerk https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recht_am_eigenen_Bild_(Deutsch... You don't have to worry about that legally.
Carpetsmoker 8y ago
> People post pictures of me on Facebook despite my objections. Continuously. They tag me—despite my objections. With an account, I can make it difficult for an average person to find photos of me. In the privacy settings there's a control so that you need to approve taggings of you before they go public.
- Tomte 8y ago
  You're only getting the privacy settings, if you have an account. That was his point.
  - gaius 8y ago
    But you’re only getting tagged if you have an account too, I thought?
sahaskatta 8y ago
You can use Facebook Messenger without a Facebook account. (I haven't tried it, but I know quite a few people that do this.)
- alskdj21 8y ago
  As what I've heard from my friends, you can deactivate your Facebook profile and still have Messenger on. Though you can't use Messenger without creating a Facebook account.
  - nixme 8y ago
    Yes you can. You sign up through the Messenger iOS/Android app.

hkai 8y ago

Why delete though? Just keep it inactive. I use my account maybe like a few times a year, as well as a couple of fake accounts for logins to other sites. I think it will hurt more if you don't delete the account but don't use it much because it reduces revenue per user, or ad views per user.

unicornporn 8y ago

> I couldn’t go through with it for reasons I’m embarrassed to admit Quitting Facebook may not a choice without severe consequences. I'm lucky enough to be able to stay away from Facebook, but I know everyone isn't in the same position. It's important to acknowledge that Facebook is inextricably intertwined with many peoples professional and social lives. Your workplace may require you to Workplace by Facebook for collaboration. The parents group at your childs school may only communicate via Facebook. Perhaps the bachelors party of a dear friend may be planned via Facebook. Embarrassment is the last thing you should feel for being trapped by this tyrant.

shock 8y ago
> Quitting Facebook may not a choice without severe consequences You know you're living in a time of peace when not having Facebook is considered to have severe consequences.
- bigiain 8y ago
  Or it's indicative of the battlefields of the (very near) future...
  - LUmBULtERA 8y ago
    Or both.
gaius 8y ago
It's important to acknowledge that Facebook is inextricably intertwined with many peoples professional and social lives This is true but also it wasn’t that long ago that going out for a smoke break was vital for people’s professional and social lives

echelon 8y ago

> People post pictures of me on Facebook despite my objections. We need to make legislation against this. I know taking pictures in public places is fair game. I also know celebrities are subject to having this information published due to the public nature of their lives. But for those wanting to live private lives, we should be able to ban tagging or indexing and sue those parties that enable this to happen without consent.

kaybe 8y ago
It's not fair game in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Italy at least, unless you're a person of public interest. I'm not sure how Facebook handles that. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recht_am_eigenen_Bild https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recht_am_eigenen_Bild (sorry, no English)
- jolmg 8y ago
  If I look in google for pictures of those places there are plenty of people in them. I'm talking pictures of streets full of people or cool looking buildings with lots of people sitting around in the grass. I don't imagine the photographer went to talk to each person all the way to the horizon to ask permission, and I imagine, in the time one sets up the camera, multiple people probably enter and leave the view. There really is no practical way to take pictures of these places without people unless you get the help of authorities to close off these spaces and get everyone out of the way. So how do these laws work?
  - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recht_am_eigenen_Bild_(Deutschland)#Personen_als_Beiwerk https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recht_am_eigenen_Bild_(Deutsch... You don't have to worry about that legally.

Carpetsmoker 8y ago

> People post pictures of me on Facebook despite my objections. Continuously. They tag me—despite my objections. With an account, I can make it difficult for an average person to find photos of me. In the privacy settings there's a control so that you need to approve taggings of you before they go public.

Tomte 8y ago
You're only getting the privacy settings, if you have an account. That was his point.
- gaius 8y ago
  But you’re only getting tagged if you have an account too, I thought?

sahaskatta 8y ago

You can use Facebook Messenger without a Facebook account. (I haven't tried it, but I know quite a few people that do this.)

alskdj21 8y ago
As what I've heard from my friends, you can deactivate your Facebook profile and still have Messenger on. Though you can't use Messenger without creating a Facebook account.
- nixme 8y ago
  Yes you can. You sign up through the Messenger iOS/Android app.