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> How is that not fraud? The answer appears to be "technically", and "sue if you think you're big enough".

by davidgerard 8y ago

matt4077 8y ago
Fraud is a criminal offense. It needs a prosecutor, not a plaintiff.
- nradov 8y ago
  In the US legal system there are both criminal and civil forms of fraud. A plaintiff can sue for fraud in civil court, seeking damages or specific performance.
  - anticensor 8y ago
    Really? In Europe, if an offense has both civil and criminal forms, criminal courts are authorised for both forms of said offense, difference lying in procedure instead.
    - nradov 8y ago
      Yes really. I doubt that applies to all countries in Europe. The UK legal system is similar to the American one. US criminal courts can order defendants convicted of fraud to pay restitution to their victims.
jblow 8y ago
I would be interested in suing them if they have a page up for me. How do I tell if they do?
- ivank 8y ago
  It looks like an in-browser thing: https://ludios.org/tmp/jon_blow-fs8.png https://ludios.org/tmp/jon_blow-fs8.png https://ludios.org/tmp/jon_blow2-fs8.png https://ludios.org/tmp/jon_blow2-fs8.png
  - brandnewlow 8y ago
    We're shipping changes tomorrow that will fix the problems with these overlays to make it clear unverified creators are not part of Brave Rewards and won't be receiving tips directly. You can read about them here: https://brave.com/rewards-update/ https://brave.com/rewards-update/
- deleted 8y ago
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- atomical 8y ago
  Is it okay if I tip you some BATs?
- brandnewlow 8y ago
  We don't publish pages for creators at all. We did ship bad UI in our browser that didn't make it clear to opted in users that non-verified creators like yourself aren't part of Brave Rewards. We're pushing up fixes tomorrow that (we hope) make it a lot clearer: https://brave.com/rewards-update/ https://brave.com/rewards-update/ (Sidenote: Thank you for the Hedge Maze puzzles in the Keep. They were a gaming highlight for me last year.)

> How is that not fraud? The answer appears to be "technically", and "sue if you think you're big enough".

matt4077 8y ago

Fraud is a criminal offense. It needs a prosecutor, not a plaintiff.

nradov 8y ago
In the US legal system there are both criminal and civil forms of fraud. A plaintiff can sue for fraud in civil court, seeking damages or specific performance.
- anticensor 8y ago
  Really? In Europe, if an offense has both civil and criminal forms, criminal courts are authorised for both forms of said offense, difference lying in procedure instead.
  - nradov 8y ago
    Yes really. I doubt that applies to all countries in Europe. The UK legal system is similar to the American one. US criminal courts can order defendants convicted of fraud to pay restitution to their victims.

jblow 8y ago

I would be interested in suing them if they have a page up for me. How do I tell if they do?

ivank 8y ago
It looks like an in-browser thing: https://ludios.org/tmp/jon_blow-fs8.png https://ludios.org/tmp/jon_blow-fs8.png https://ludios.org/tmp/jon_blow2-fs8.png https://ludios.org/tmp/jon_blow2-fs8.png
- brandnewlow 8y ago
  We're shipping changes tomorrow that will fix the problems with these overlays to make it clear unverified creators are not part of Brave Rewards and won't be receiving tips directly. You can read about them here: https://brave.com/rewards-update/ https://brave.com/rewards-update/
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atomical 8y ago
Is it okay if I tip you some BATs?
brandnewlow 8y ago
We don't publish pages for creators at all. We did ship bad UI in our browser that didn't make it clear to opted in users that non-verified creators like yourself aren't part of Brave Rewards. We're pushing up fixes tomorrow that (we hope) make it a lot clearer: https://brave.com/rewards-update/ https://brave.com/rewards-update/ (Sidenote: Thank you for the Hedge Maze puzzles in the Keep. They were a gaming highlight for me last year.)