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Slightly different purpose, but it's a reminder that Omnia Turris exists: https://omnia.turris.cz/en/ https://omnia.turris.cz/en/ 100% Open hardware, comes wit

by akerro 8y ago

Slightly different purpose, but it's a reminder that Omnia Turris exists: https://omnia.turris.cz/en/ https://omnia.turris.cz/en/ 100% Open hardware, comes with OpenWRT and it is easy to modify https://forum.turris.cz/t/high-performance-configuration-update/1534 https://forum.turris.cz/t/high-performance-configuration-upd... https://forum.turris.cz/t/omnia-on-steroids-project-your-opinion-and-expertise-is-welcomed/5712 https://forum.turris.cz/t/omnia-on-steroids-project-your-opi...

ce4 8y ago
And funnily its from cznic while the op's router is from apnic.
- xuande 8y ago
  Actually it's not apnic's, the blog is just writing about it. These are the people working on it: https://librerouter.org/team https://librerouter.org/team
  - ce4 8y ago
    Thanks, failed to notice that. Will need to come back later to their site though: "librerouter.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate expired on 19. Dezember 2018, 18:11:42 GMT+1."
iagovar 8y ago
Did you tried it, is it worth it?
- akerro 8y ago
  I've been using it for almost 3 years at home with domoticz, NAS, OpenVPN gateway for all clients at home, QoS and bandwidth splitter.
voltagex_ 8y ago
I jumped from a Turris Omnia to Unifi kit after the Turris broke during an update (sorry, I need my stuff to work all the time). Funnily enough I miss it, but the decision to use knot as the resolver is very, very strange. The Omnia is based on the Espressobin, which is also worth looking at.
- petee 8y ago
  Having a diverse set of DNS software is a great thing, I'm not sure why you think that's strange. Why have every single router vulnerable to the next BIND bug?
  - Fnoord 8y ago
    BIND? Who still uses that? Its dnsmasq and unbound all over.
    - LinuxBender 8y ago
      Bind is still very heavily used. Dnsmasq is popular in many of the container deployment models. I love Unbound, and hope that it gains more popularity. ISC (Bind) refuses to implement the min-ttl feature of Unbound. Unbound has better query (request and response) logging than Bind.
      - fanf2 8y ago
        BIND 9.14 will have min-cache-ttl and min-ncache-ttl options https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/issues/613 https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/issues/613
        LinuxBender 8y ago
        Oh wow, I wonder who convinced them to consider it. Nice!
    - walrus01 8y ago
      > Who still uses that? The top 100 largest ISPs in the world, as measured by CAIDA ASRANK.
tw04 8y ago
How is it open hardware if they're using an ARM CPU? I don't see a link anywhere to the open source firmware, but I'm admittedly on mobile.
- monocasa 8y ago
  Colloquially, schematics, board layout files, and the ability for the user to replace any firmware that the developer can is the bar for open hardware. Here's their firmware: https://gitlab.labs.nic.cz/turris/openwrt https://gitlab.labs.nic.cz/turris/openwrt
  - subway 8y ago
    Also of note is the specific SoC used by the Omnia -- Marvell A385. It's a really neat chip that you can fully bring up not only without vendor binary blobs, but even using strictly the mainline versions of u-boot, and linux. https://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=configs/turris_omnia_defconfig;h=aad80447821bb778126e159a3d14b3e4821afcd2;hb=HEAD https://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=configs/turris_om... https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/arm/boot/dts/armada-385-turris-omnia.dts https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin...
woah 8y ago
The Turris is a luxury toy for rich techies to play around with. Librerouter is outdoor infrastructure for remote developing areas. Their purposes could not be more different and the only thing they have in common is that the both contain radios and run OpenWRT.
- wmf 8y ago
  Does LibreRouter have pricing yet? I've never seen an open hardware product with competitive pricing (except maybe Arduino).
tatoalo 8y ago
I love it...is there something similar to this with specifications taken down a notch which would help decrease the price a little bit?
kupfer 8y ago
Is it really 100% open hardware? Did they release the design files yet? They did release them for older Turris products and placed them under Cern OHL [1], but last time I checked they did not do so for the Turris Omnia [2]. I was a bit disappointed about that, since they promised it to be open hardware during the crowdfunding. [1] https://project.turris.cz/en/hardware-documentation https://project.turris.cz/en/hardware-documentation [2] https://forum.turris.cz/t/turris-omnia-hardware-documentation-availability/2329 https://forum.turris.cz/t/turris-omnia-hardware-documentatio...

by akerro 8y ago

ce4 8y ago

And funnily its from cznic while the op's router is from apnic.

xuande 8y ago
Actually it's not apnic's, the blog is just writing about it. These are the people working on it: https://librerouter.org/team https://librerouter.org/team
- ce4 8y ago
  Thanks, failed to notice that. Will need to come back later to their site though: "librerouter.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate expired on 19. Dezember 2018, 18:11:42 GMT+1."

iagovar 8y ago

Did you tried it, is it worth it?

akerro 8y ago
I've been using it for almost 3 years at home with domoticz, NAS, OpenVPN gateway for all clients at home, QoS and bandwidth splitter.

voltagex_ 8y ago

I jumped from a Turris Omnia to Unifi kit after the Turris broke during an update (sorry, I need my stuff to work all the time). Funnily enough I miss it, but the decision to use knot as the resolver is very, very strange. The Omnia is based on the Espressobin, which is also worth looking at.

petee 8y ago
Having a diverse set of DNS software is a great thing, I'm not sure why you think that's strange. Why have every single router vulnerable to the next BIND bug?
- Fnoord 8y ago
  BIND? Who still uses that? Its dnsmasq and unbound all over.
  - LinuxBender 8y ago
    Bind is still very heavily used. Dnsmasq is popular in many of the container deployment models. I love Unbound, and hope that it gains more popularity. ISC (Bind) refuses to implement the min-ttl feature of Unbound. Unbound has better query (request and response) logging than Bind.
    - fanf2 8y ago
      BIND 9.14 will have min-cache-ttl and min-ncache-ttl options https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/issues/613 https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/issues/613
      - LinuxBender 8y ago
        Oh wow, I wonder who convinced them to consider it. Nice!
  - walrus01 8y ago
    > Who still uses that? The top 100 largest ISPs in the world, as measured by CAIDA ASRANK.

tw04 8y ago

How is it open hardware if they're using an ARM CPU? I don't see a link anywhere to the open source firmware, but I'm admittedly on mobile.

monocasa 8y ago
Colloquially, schematics, board layout files, and the ability for the user to replace any firmware that the developer can is the bar for open hardware. Here's their firmware: https://gitlab.labs.nic.cz/turris/openwrt https://gitlab.labs.nic.cz/turris/openwrt
- subway 8y ago
  Also of note is the specific SoC used by the Omnia -- Marvell A385. It's a really neat chip that you can fully bring up not only without vendor binary blobs, but even using strictly the mainline versions of u-boot, and linux. https://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=configs/turris_omnia_defconfig;h=aad80447821bb778126e159a3d14b3e4821afcd2;hb=HEAD https://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=configs/turris_om... https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/arm/boot/dts/armada-385-turris-omnia.dts https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin...

woah 8y ago

The Turris is a luxury toy for rich techies to play around with. Librerouter is outdoor infrastructure for remote developing areas. Their purposes could not be more different and the only thing they have in common is that the both contain radios and run OpenWRT.

wmf 8y ago
Does LibreRouter have pricing yet? I've never seen an open hardware product with competitive pricing (except maybe Arduino).

tatoalo 8y ago

I love it...is there something similar to this with specifications taken down a notch which would help decrease the price a little bit?

kupfer 8y ago

Is it really 100% open hardware? Did they release the design files yet? They did release them for older Turris products and placed them under Cern OHL [1], but last time I checked they did not do so for the Turris Omnia [2]. I was a bit disappointed about that, since they promised it to be open hardware during the crowdfunding. [1] https://project.turris.cz/en/hardware-documentation https://project.turris.cz/en/hardware-documentation [2] https://forum.turris.cz/t/turris-omnia-hardware-documentation-availability/2329 https://forum.turris.cz/t/turris-omnia-hardware-documentatio...