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>What happens next? Well let me tell you of another event that occurred to me in 08/17. I was kidnapped at gunpoint from a gas station, forced to drive my att
by will_brown 8y ago
>What happens next?
Well let me tell you of another event that occurred to me in 08/17.
I was kidnapped at gunpoint from a gas station, forced to drive my attacker with a gun on my for 30 minutes, eventually after getting off the highway I jumped out of my own car in gear, escaped and called the police.
First words out of the sergeants mouth responding, “cut the shit what really happened.” Despite my insistence I’m an officer of the court myself (attorney at Law) that there will be video from the gas station to prove my version of events, I was even told, “we aren’t even sure if you own a car and if you are just calling police for a free ride.”
In that case, in 24 hours I located my car and the gunman and called the police and had him arrested. That’s not to say I did this voluntarily, luckily the gunman connected my WiFi only iPad to the internet and I got the location, of course I called the police first, who told me “they heard about my ‘story’ yesterday, and wouldn’t be going to the address until I drove to the station and showed them the Apple email”. I did just that and after keeping me in the parking lot for an hour and laughing at me 2 officers came out to me (this station was closed on Sunday) and took down the address, drive away and called my cellphone and told me go home they don’t see my car. Unsatisfied I went to the address myself, found my car and the gunman, called the police yet again and they finally came and arrested him.
He bonded out Monday at 8AM. He has since been rearrested, bonded out yet again, rearrested yet again for violation of his bond vis—Avis his GPS tracker I insisted on.
His trial is still ongoing. Someone stole my keys and ID, I should be entitled to know what they look like when 2 videos are available, crimes against me are ongoing, and the cost of the officers time (since you are so concerned about their $150/hour rates...which seem entirely made up, no offense) is a 1 minute reply to an email I forwarded him from foot locker loss prevention.
Edit: I forgot my conclusion, which is, people who engage in these activities in many cases will even have friends and family who turn them in (i.e. the unibomber). But even if they don’t a public platform would be very helpful in deterring these activities, which is the ultimate goal.
- mdpopescu 8y agoOk, so you already realized that the police aren't useless - they are far worse than that. When are you going to take responsibility for solving your problems?
- crummy 8y agoI think this sarcasm has gone over some folks' heads.
- ianwalter 8y agoDamn man, where do you live? I can't imagine that happening in my town, then again, you never really know until it happens to you I guess.
- illumin8 8y agoLooks like Florida (Miami) from his follow-up replies. Honestly I would stay far away...
- e40 8y agoYou've had some really bad luck, Will. Where do you live? I wanna get far away from there.
- will_brown 8y agoThe irony is I’m born and raised in Miami (where the car break in happened), but believe it or not I had to travel to the 9th safest city in the US to get kidnapped (more accurately that’s where I escaped, and the kidnapping happened in a small beach town 30 minutes south).
- tomaskafka 8y agoIs it possible it's not bad luck but skin color?
- blhack 8y agoHoly shit. Was this in the US? What city? Can you share more of the story?
- agensaequivocum 8y agoI would get a CCW if you don't already have one.
- yardie 8y agoExcept he’d be dead and the perp would have 2 guns. Why is the solution to more gun violence more guns?
- TallGuyShort 8y agoWhat's your solution? More bans that aren't enforced effectively?
- Sabinus 8y agoEvery other country seems to manage it.
- TallGuyShort 8y agoYeah I grew up in a country where it backfired royally, and now I concealed carry and stopped a murder-in-progress with it when the cops were still 10 minutes away, so y'all can fuck off with your statist ideas and cherry-picked examples for things that have no global correlation.
- Aeolun 8y agoYou realize your own example is cherry picked right? I’ll be the first to admit that the stats for gun bans seem shaky, but that doesn’t make your own anecdote valid as a counterargument.
- eljimmy 8y agoI'm curious, where are you from? I live in Canada and no one carries around a gun except criminals. We have a fair number of stabbings since anyone buy and carry a knife (with exceptions) but shootings are pretty damn rare. I think almost every shooting in my city (a total of 74 in a city of 1.25 million) last year was criminal-on-criminal.
- cjhanks 8y agoThat must be a very betraying experience, I am sorry you had to go through it.
- loftyal 8y agoJesus this reads like it's from some super corrupt 3rd country, not the US.
- jbverschoor 8y agoyou have no idea which countries are "3rd world" these days
- ensiferum 8y agoImplying that US wasn't a 3rd world country?
- airstrike 8y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World
- tokyodude 8y agoGet out of your bubble? I used to think the USA was a "safe" place. Maybe it is compared to Somalia but it isn't compared to Japan or Singapore. Once I got used to the safety of these places I never feel safe in the USA anymore. I used just take it for granted there were bad parts of town and that even in the good parts of town I should be leery of people, avoid dark alleys etc. Don't walk alone at night, etc. Then I lived in these other places where that concept mostly doesn't exist. As a concrete example it's common sense in the USA if I get a 3rd party car stereo I should get a removable car stereo and always take it out or hide it. I had 5 of them stolen and my car once and just took it all as "sucks but that's that way life is, my fault for forgetting to take the stereo out or not buying a lojack". But it's not the way life is. It's the way we've let it become. There's lots of other examples and AFAIK most of it is cultural. An example, find a dropped wallet. In USA/Europe a large percentage of people have the attitude "score for me! found free money!" Not sure if that percentage is 20% or 80% but in Japan (and I think Singapore) the more common response is "OMG, someone is really going to be in a tough spot. I'd better try to get this back to them if possible". In the USA even if people had that attitude they might rationalize that the police won't care and it might be true the police don't care which is just another symptom of the same problem. I have no clues how to spread the nicer culture to the West. It seems the opposite "me me me" culture is impossible to fight. PS: these kinds of posts always illicit irrelevant responses of the problems in Japan and Singapore. I'm not saying Japan and Singapore are perfection. I'm only pointing out this one area where they do better.
- djsumdog 8y agoDid you piss off someone as an attorney? This sounds super suspicious; like you've been targeted and there's corruption involved. ... or it could just be a shit system; speculating here.
- slededit 8y agoThe cop is going to make a split second decision on your story and that will forever colour future interactions with cops. They will all see the note on the file. If your story sounds like a hollywood movie its not too surprising the first cop will be suspicious. First impressions matter a lot when it comes to bureaucracy.
- manigandham 8y agoIf you're a lawyer then this seems like a personally targeted situation. What happened to the police who ignored you? All of these interactions should be recorded so do you have a civil suit against the police department?
- sneak 8y agoYou cannot sue police for most things without permission from the government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity Additionally, police have no legal duty or obligation to protect or investigate.
- Something1234 8y agoThen what is the duty of the police?
- sneak 8y agoHistorically, the very first regular police patrols on this continent after settlement were for the express purpose of protecting the property interests of large landholders: escaped slave patrols, estate protection duty to keep angry/hungry working class from breaking/burning down mansions, et c. Unless you own a lot of property, you still can’t expect much from the police in the USA.
- irundebian 8y agoI'm not living in the US, but that's crap. It's one of the top principles of state of laws that governmental power is constrained by law which also applys to the state and its bodies hence also for the police and its officers. I think you're mixing something up.
- masonic 8y agothat's crap. No, he's correct in the USA. It's been affirmed in case law multiple times.
- tomcam 8y agoThat is beyond horrible. Sorry you had to go through it. Did you contact the FBI? If I understand correctly, kidnapping is a federal offense. They might have taken it more seriously.
- luizfzs 8y agoPublic shaming. People would be scared as hell if they saw a video of them stealing stuff on the internet.