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If we as a society are OK with qualified law enforcement looking the other way, then we're OK with passing the buck to the unqualified. Post hoc ergo propter h

If we as a society are OK with qualified law enforcement looking the other way, then we're OK with passing the buck to the unqualified. Post hoc ergo propter hoc make for valid public policy it does not. What source do you point to that we as a society are OK with qualified law enforcement looking the other way?

alangibson 8y ago
Existence proof. Law enforcement looks the other way and we do nothing about it. Not being OK with something and passively accepting it is functionally identical to being OK with something.
- ben_w 8y ago
  I don’t know what to do about such things. One of my exes is certain what to do, which is why she’s campaigning for the fourth largest political party in America. Me, I could work on AI to fully enforce all laws, but I suspect that would have unfortunate side effects like accidentally returning to feudalism after all but a few thousand Americans end up with multiple millennia of prison time because the laws themselves are overbroad… and if I limit it to just laws I agree with, well that’s exactly the sort of thing I would be appalled by if done by someone with whom I disagreed about which laws were just. What should we do, do you recon?
  - krageon 8y ago
    Move to a different country. Work hard and be an asset somewhere you do agree with society's laws, then help that country improve it's lot so more people can benefit. Why should a country be different than a company?
    - tripzilch 8y ago
      I prefer my countries better than a company.
    - ben_w 8y ago
      I did move to a new country. That’s not helping the UK (my place of origin), because the UK leadership is utterly tone-deaf to all critics. My German comprehension isn’t likely to ever be good enough to have useful opinions about German law.
  - tripzilch 8y ago
    I don't know, did you try having more guns?
belorn 8y ago
Just to take two examples in the news from the last few months here in Sweden. The police has announced that they will not investigate illegal workers in the construction industry next year, because if they did they would find crime and then that department would not have any time left to investigate other industries. It is also official policy to not investigate theft below of $500, unless special circumstances. Because of this many stores has refused to file police reports, which the state statisticians then complained on national news since that limits their ability to make accurate reports to the politicians on how much crime exist.

alangibson 8y ago

Existence proof. Law enforcement looks the other way and we do nothing about it. Not being OK with something and passively accepting it is functionally identical to being OK with something.

ben_w 8y ago
I don’t know what to do about such things. One of my exes is certain what to do, which is why she’s campaigning for the fourth largest political party in America. Me, I could work on AI to fully enforce all laws, but I suspect that would have unfortunate side effects like accidentally returning to feudalism after all but a few thousand Americans end up with multiple millennia of prison time because the laws themselves are overbroad… and if I limit it to just laws I agree with, well that’s exactly the sort of thing I would be appalled by if done by someone with whom I disagreed about which laws were just. What should we do, do you recon?
- krageon 8y ago
  Move to a different country. Work hard and be an asset somewhere you do agree with society's laws, then help that country improve it's lot so more people can benefit. Why should a country be different than a company?
  - tripzilch 8y ago
    I prefer my countries better than a company.
  - ben_w 8y ago
    I did move to a new country. That’s not helping the UK (my place of origin), because the UK leadership is utterly tone-deaf to all critics. My German comprehension isn’t likely to ever be good enough to have useful opinions about German law.
- tripzilch 8y ago
  I don't know, did you try having more guns?

belorn 8y ago

Just to take two examples in the news from the last few months here in Sweden. The police has announced that they will not investigate illegal workers in the construction industry next year, because if they did they would find crime and then that department would not have any time left to investigate other industries. It is also official policy to not investigate theft below of $500, unless special circumstances. Because of this many stores has refused to file police reports, which the state statisticians then complained on national news since that limits their ability to make accurate reports to the politicians on how much crime exist.