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The repeated "Opt out!" yelling tactic is obviously a way to intimidate and humiliate the participant, and dissuade anyone else who would otherwise choose to op

The repeated "Opt out!" yelling tactic is obviously a way to intimidate and humiliate the participant, and dissuade anyone else who would otherwise choose to opt out. I have not had the opportunity to opt out yet. But when I do, I will gladly join in the opt out screaming session, and add some other choice words of my own. I refuse to quietly be a part of some absurd bureaucratic plot that slowly and steadily strips away my civil rights.

StavrosK 16y ago
"Opt out over here! I'm not going through the strip search!"
- phpnode 16y ago
  and then make a point of loudly enjoying the pat down.
  - StavrosK 16y ago
    "Oh yes... A bit to the left, that's it!"
    - rdtsc 16y ago
      But I wonder if some TSA employee who doesn't like can just "randomly" pick you for additional questioning and delay you just enough to miss your flight then let you go. Would they just retaliate against you just for making a fuss?
      - alanh 16y ago
        If you're thinking along those lines, they already won.
roc 16y ago
The whole invasive pat-down is just a way to intimidate and humiliate people away from that choice. This is the last straw for me, personally. I'll just be vacationing closer to home now or working old-school road trips into my plans. Maybe if the outraged take a few less flights a year, the vacation, airline and union lobbies will take up the cause.
- jules 16y ago
  For whom on HN are pat downs intimidating and/or humiliating? I personally don't mind it at all, but I can understand that they could be a problem for somebody. I'm much more worried about CCTV's everywhere, cell phone tracking, internet usage tracking, tracking cars with cameras on highways that read number plates, etc. All these tools are extremely well suited for keeping a dictator in place. I'm afraid that if we get one, then we're not getting rid of him any time soon.
  - steveklabnik 16y ago
    Me. It's insane. It serves no purpose other than to intimidate and harasses normal citizens just trying to get from point A to point B. The fact that I'm assumed to be that stupid, plus the 1984-esqe overtones really, really gets to me.
    - jules 16y ago
      Right. So it's not so much the physical aspects of pat downs, but the reasons behind the pat downs?
      - steveklabnik 16y ago
        I mean, I was raised Catholic, so I'm not exactly the model of immodesty, but yes, its not the 'omg they'll touch my junk' part as it is the infringement on basic human rights part. And being reminded that some people think this is okay. And that most people accept it. I have slightly unusual polititcal views, so such a visible reminder that I'm 'the only person who cares' really riles me up.

StavrosK 16y ago

"Opt out over here! I'm not going through the strip search!"

phpnode 16y ago
and then make a point of loudly enjoying the pat down.
- StavrosK 16y ago
  "Oh yes... A bit to the left, that's it!"
  - rdtsc 16y ago
    But I wonder if some TSA employee who doesn't like can just "randomly" pick you for additional questioning and delay you just enough to miss your flight then let you go. Would they just retaliate against you just for making a fuss?
    - alanh 16y ago
      If you're thinking along those lines, they already won.

roc 16y ago

The whole invasive pat-down is just a way to intimidate and humiliate people away from that choice. This is the last straw for me, personally. I'll just be vacationing closer to home now or working old-school road trips into my plans. Maybe if the outraged take a few less flights a year, the vacation, airline and union lobbies will take up the cause.

jules 16y ago
For whom on HN are pat downs intimidating and/or humiliating? I personally don't mind it at all, but I can understand that they could be a problem for somebody. I'm much more worried about CCTV's everywhere, cell phone tracking, internet usage tracking, tracking cars with cameras on highways that read number plates, etc. All these tools are extremely well suited for keeping a dictator in place. I'm afraid that if we get one, then we're not getting rid of him any time soon.
- steveklabnik 16y ago
  Me. It's insane. It serves no purpose other than to intimidate and harasses normal citizens just trying to get from point A to point B. The fact that I'm assumed to be that stupid, plus the 1984-esqe overtones really, really gets to me.
  - jules 16y ago
    Right. So it's not so much the physical aspects of pat downs, but the reasons behind the pat downs?
    - steveklabnik 16y ago
      I mean, I was raised Catholic, so I'm not exactly the model of immodesty, but yes, its not the 'omg they'll touch my junk' part as it is the infringement on basic human rights part. And being reminded that some people think this is okay. And that most people accept it. I have slightly unusual polititcal views, so such a visible reminder that I'm 'the only person who cares' really riles me up.