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I guess I'm moving back to the UK. No wait, can't do that either. Perhaps I'll live in the US for a while, I haven't lived there yet. Or just become the digita
by FuckOffNeemo 8y ago
I guess I'm moving back to the UK. No wait, can't do that either. Perhaps I'll live in the US for a while, I haven't lived there yet.
Or just become the digital nomad and move off to Budapest like many of my past colleagues and friends.
I don't have the emotional depth at this point to articulate a well thought out perspective on what impact these laws will have one me, our industry or my own personal safety in Australia.
But I can say for sure, that the entire thing is completely fucked.
- mav3rick 8y agoHow do they like living and working in Budapest ?
- FuckOffNeemo 8y agoThey fucking love it. The work is occasionally sparse, they've expressed it's not some where to raise their family but as couples/single income workers, they wouldn't trade it for the world. Edit: typo, spare=sparse.
- danieltillett 8y agoWell if you are Australian you are fcuked everywhere. What company is going to want to hire a Australian developer who can be pressured into secretly inserting a backdoor into your software?
- ryacko 8y agoThe same company that would outsource IT to India? Really terrible companies, in short.
- tspike 8y agoEvery major tech company has workers in India.
- mirimir 8y agoAt one point, I worked on a lawsuit involving a firm that had entirely outsourced its IT to India. There was literally nobody left in the US who knew how stuff worked. I don't know, in retrospect, whether that was pathetic, or utterly clever.
- justinclift 8y agoThe long term results finally catching up to the short term thinking? Wonder if whoever did the initial short term "lets outsource it!" thinking had moved on by the stage the lawsuit happened?
- mirimir 8y agoI was working for people who were suing them, so mainly it created problems in discovery. Compelling testimony of non-citizens/non-residents was a lot harder, I gather.
- FuckOffNeemo 8y agoWell, I'm a British Citizen who got an Australian citizenship. I guess I'll forfeit them both and just... go some where else?
- ehnto 8y agoWell Captain Nemo, I have heard this part of the story before... To the seas!
- orwin 8y agoYou can still travel and work across europe for now, as long as a brexit deal is reached. You have a fine startup scene in the baltic, crazy startup in Paris and Berlin (tbh, it'll be easier in germany right now), you have really professinnal, interesting companies in the Netherlands, Lille or Hambourg if your thing is devops/non-web dev. With the AI4EU project, you can also land a job building tools for machine learning[1]. We have plenty of oportunities here. [1] Honestly, it'll mostly be integrating different ML opensource solutions together and maybe some FOSS contribution from what i've seen.
- Fnoord 8y agoBudapest, in Hungary? You might wanna look up Viktor Orban before moving to there. If you're British you can roam freely through the EU. I can recommend Germany instead: strong privacy laws, and due to recent history (WWI, WWII, Cold War) there is a relative strong pro privacy mindset. Though I recommend learning German if you intend to settle in large cities such as Berlin and international companies or IT you can easily get away with English.
- mr_toad 8y ago> If you're British you can roam freely through the EU. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem likely that this will last much longer, unless the UK makes a u-turn on brexit.
- Fnoord 8y agoFair enough, gonna depend on the deal though. I really doubt UK civilians living in Germany are going to get kicked out to UK. That'd be so counterproductive for self employed people...
- FuckOffNeemo 8y agoI'll do just that (re, Viktor), thank you.
- sqldba 8y agoIn the US the NSA can ask you to do the same thing.