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Politically, I agree with you, but your comment is akin to when republicans blast global warming when a snow storm blows in. Pointing to a single data point as

Politically, I agree with you, but your comment is akin to when republicans blast global warming when a snow storm blows in. Pointing to a single data point as a summary of something super complex is always silly.

jackkinsella 8y ago
It's comments like this that keep me coming back to Hacker News. I sometimes find myself in political discussions with people and feel that they aren't playing fair for whatever reason (fair in the sense of good natured truth-seeking). Your counter-example is the perfect, non-snarky retort.
- polskibus 8y ago
  Argumentum ad populum or ad numerum, it's always good to keep an eye for them!
TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
Are Republics a homogenous whole, none of whom take climate change seriously?
- jayess 8y ago
  Today, everyone is in a group, and if that group is not your group, the other group is bad.
  - root_axis 8y ago
    Today? Did you mean literally the entire history of humanity?
- root_axis 8y ago
  Of course not, but invoking cold weather as a way of casting doubt on global warming is not a popular rhetorical tactic except among American conservatives (republicans).
padseeker 8y ago
That's a fair criticism. One wave of layoffs does not constitute evidence that the tax cuts are a failure. Still the economy is going in an upward direction, and Verizon isn't shrinking. Why are they laying off 10K people?
- tracker1 8y ago
  They're the most expensive carrier in a highly competitive market that will likely get more so in the next 3-5 years.
- adventured 8y ago
  Verizon has seen zero revenue growth since something like 2012 or 2013. 7% employee cut, against a 12%-14% inflation erosion of their business. Everything they've done over that time has been to just stand still while T-Mobile eats their market out from under them. In a more practical consideration, they're very likely going to need less people going forward because they're going to keep losing market share to a more nimble competitor. They'd be the last to admit that of course.
- tomatotomato37 8y ago
  A rising economy can't compensate for stupid executive decisions.

jackkinsella 8y ago

It's comments like this that keep me coming back to Hacker News. I sometimes find myself in political discussions with people and feel that they aren't playing fair for whatever reason (fair in the sense of good natured truth-seeking). Your counter-example is the perfect, non-snarky retort.

polskibus 8y ago
Argumentum ad populum or ad numerum, it's always good to keep an eye for them!

TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago

Are Republics a homogenous whole, none of whom take climate change seriously?

jayess 8y ago
Today, everyone is in a group, and if that group is not your group, the other group is bad.
- root_axis 8y ago
  Today? Did you mean literally the entire history of humanity?
root_axis 8y ago
Of course not, but invoking cold weather as a way of casting doubt on global warming is not a popular rhetorical tactic except among American conservatives (republicans).

padseeker 8y ago

That's a fair criticism. One wave of layoffs does not constitute evidence that the tax cuts are a failure. Still the economy is going in an upward direction, and Verizon isn't shrinking. Why are they laying off 10K people?

tracker1 8y ago
They're the most expensive carrier in a highly competitive market that will likely get more so in the next 3-5 years.
adventured 8y ago
Verizon has seen zero revenue growth since something like 2012 or 2013. 7% employee cut, against a 12%-14% inflation erosion of their business. Everything they've done over that time has been to just stand still while T-Mobile eats their market out from under them. In a more practical consideration, they're very likely going to need less people going forward because they're going to keep losing market share to a more nimble competitor. They'd be the last to admit that of course.
tomatotomato37 8y ago
A rising economy can't compensate for stupid executive decisions.