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It was removed because - pretty much nobody was using it; - it's pretty easy to reimplement as an extension. Championing the Free Web is harder if you also n
by Yoric 8y ago
It was removed because
- pretty much nobody was using it;
- it's pretty easy to reimplement as an extension.
Championing the Free Web is harder if you also need to champion the dead web.
edit "nobody" => "pretty much nobody"
- ekianjo 8y ago> - nobody was using it; You'll need a source for that, since most Wordpress sites which constitute a HUGE part of the web have pretty much by default rss feeds. It's not because you are not using it that nobody is. And even you premise was true (which is debatable), it cost absolutely nothing for Firefox to keep a functional RSS reader without putting much effort into it (or instead, you know, putting efforts in pushing ads to people who never wanted them).
- Yoric 8y ago> You'll need a source for that, since most Wordpress sites which constitute a HUGE part of the web have pretty much by default rss feeds. It's not because you are not using it that nobody is. I'm not making it up. I don't remember the exact details – you'll have to look at the archives of the Mozilla dev-platform mailing list if you want them – but I seem to remember the usage was below 0.001% of users. I personally read RSS with Thunderbird, which is a much better experience anyway. > And even you premise was true (which is debatable), it cost absolutely nothing for Firefox to keep a functional RSS reader without putting much effort into it (or instead, you know, putting efforts in pushing ads to people who never wanted them). It actually does. Every piece of software that you need to maintain is a tax. Paying the tax makes sense if the code is useful, not if it isn't. Also, frankly, this implementation didn't bring anything to users. It wasn't nice to use. There are much better RSS readers than a browser – starting with RSS WebExtensions.
- tapland 8y agoNo. Not literally noone was using it. Just a colloquial 'noone' as in 'noone is using Firefox'. Additional features that the average user does not want to use or care about creates confusion and a feeling of bloat. An official extension would be nice though.
- cpeterso 8y agoDid users actually consume those WordPress RSS feeds using Firefox? I imagine most RSS users are going to use an RSS reader like Feedly, NewsBlur, or Google Reader (RIP). Those RSS readers don't require users to copy/paste RSS URLs. Users can search feeds by site or topic names.
- trendia 8y agoAnd it competed with Pocket.
- Yoric 8y agoNot really. People use Pocket. People don't use RSS in their browser.
- trendia 8y agoMarket research indicates that most people actually love RSS.
- scarejunba 8y agoIn their browser? Interesting. I would have thought people take the link to a reader/podcast-reader/torrent-app.
- Yoric 8y agoAn implementation of RSS baked into the browser? I'd be surprised. Do you have a source?
- trendia 8y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18626702 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18626702
- Yoric 8y agoOk, so you're just trolling. Too bad.
- imtringued 8y agoI don't know what intention you had when you posted that link but it clearly disproves that anyone uses the terrible built-in RSS reader in firefox. Here, just take a look at the first response: >Literally 99.99% of Firefox users did not use the built in RSS support[1]. >I love RSS! I also never used the built in Firefox RSS support because it was not very good. Mozilla also compiled a helpful list of alternative RSS readers for the 0.01% of users that used this feature and made it easy to export your feed list[2]. >[1] https://www.gijsk.com/blog/2018/10/firefox-removes-core-product-support-for-rss-atom-feeds/ https://www.gijsk.com/blog/2018/10/firefox-removes-core-prod... >[2] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/feed-reader-replacements-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/feed-reader-replacement...
- vrazj 8y agoPocket is also easy to implement as an extension. In fact, it is an extension. But they bundled it with the browser.
- AsyncAwait 8y agoIt's their own service.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y agoIt wasn't when they first did it.
- AsyncAwait 8y agoI am aware. But the difference is Google wouldn't care and Mozilla at least did something, even if it wasn't removing the extension.
- Yoric 8y agoAnd most people seem to be very happy about it.
- richjdsmith 8y agoPerson here. Very happy indeed. I discovered Pocket as a result of it being integrated and have been a very happy user ever since.
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- unethical_ban 8y agoWas it hard to maintain? Is RSS antithetical to the open Internet? If the answer to both is no, they should have left it. I wish I could tell my parents to subscribe to some news sites and my website to see updates, so they dont' have to join some kind of mailing list... but I can't, because I'm not going to explain how to configure addons to my 70 year old.