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In short. Edge engine is dead. Based on Chromium. Not an UWP. Will be on Windows 7 and Mac.

by MikusR 8y ago

sebazzz 8y ago
And the updates won't be tied to Windows versions anymore.
copperx 8y ago
If Edge comes to Linux it will be the second ice age in hell.
- bdcravens 8y ago
  Why? Other Microsoft software runs on Linux.
  - shaki-dora 8y ago
    In their defense, they did specify it being the second.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Once upon a time there was an IE version for Solaris. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX
mtgx 8y ago
This is hilarious to me. When Edge was just a rumor and before Windows 10 was released, I said here that I hope Microsoft will not repeat the mistake of tying this new modern browser to Windows 10 like it has done in the past with Internet Explorer and prior Windows versions. Microsoft, in its short-sighted way, thought that tying the browser to Windows would be an "advantage," because of things like "better integration with the OS" and throwing the Edge updates in there with the Windows updates, without needing a different update channel. However, this was short-sighted was because of the following reasons: - Edge development would remain very sluggish compared to the development of Chrome and Firefox, as new major features would have to wait until Windows itself gets new major features (which happens every 6 months, rather than 6 weeks). - It would mean Edge would not be cross-platform, a huge strategic mistake on Microsoft's part. People want to use the same browser across devices. - The proprietary "features" Microsoft would build in Edge over time that only work with certain versions of Windows will come back to bite it in the ass in the future.
- benj111 8y ago
  >"- It would mean Edge would not be cross-platform, a huge strategic mistake on Microsoft's part. People want to use the same browser across devices" Realy? Id prefer different browsers optimised for the device. I don't even think theres much similarity between the desktop and the mobile browser anyway. Any benefits other than bookmark sharing etc?
negativegate 8y ago
I didn't see any mention of Windows 7 or that it won't be a UWP on Windows, are there more details somewhere?
- mrpippy 8y ago
  Agreed. I see zero chance that Edge will suddenly be ported back to Windows 7. And it would be almost as big of a shock if the Chromium-based Edge is not UWP.
  - pilif 8y ago
    The blog post says it's coming to all supported versions of windows. Until 2020, that includes Windows 7 and 8
    - mrpippy 8y ago
      In this case, I think "supported" means what Microsoft calls "Mainstream Support" (1). Windows 7 and 8.1 are both in "Extended Support", which only gets security updates. Mainstream support for Win7 ended in 2015, for Win8.1 in January 2018. The only mainstream supported versions of Windows are various Windows 10 editions. (1) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/14085/microsoft-business-developer-and-desktop-operating-systems-policy https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/14085/microsoft-bus...
  - mrpippy 8y ago
    I stand corrected--this is exactly what they're going to do. Take Win32 Chromium, rename it Edge, and build it for Win7, 8, and 10. What a huge blow to everyone at MS who believes in UWP. https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/6/18128648/microsoft-edge-chrome-chromium-browser-changes https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/6/18128648/microsoft-edge-c...
    - moogly 8y ago
      > What a huge blow to everyone at MS who believes in UWP. That may be so, but is there anyone outside of MS who believes in UWP? Not even stalwart MS exclusive devs seem to do so.

In short. Edge engine is dead. Based on Chromium. Not an UWP. Will be on Windows 7 and Mac.

by MikusR 8y ago

In short. Edge engine is dead. Based on Chromium. Not an UWP. Will be on Windows 7 and Mac.

sebazzz 8y ago

And the updates won't be tied to Windows versions anymore.

copperx 8y ago

If Edge comes to Linux it will be the second ice age in hell.

bdcravens 8y ago
Why? Other Microsoft software runs on Linux.
- shaki-dora 8y ago
  In their defense, they did specify it being the second.
pjmlp 8y ago
Once upon a time there was an IE version for Solaris. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX

mtgx 8y ago

This is hilarious to me. When Edge was just a rumor and before Windows 10 was released, I said here that I hope Microsoft will not repeat the mistake of tying this new modern browser to Windows 10 like it has done in the past with Internet Explorer and prior Windows versions. Microsoft, in its short-sighted way, thought that tying the browser to Windows would be an "advantage," because of things like "better integration with the OS" and throwing the Edge updates in there with the Windows updates, without needing a different update channel. However, this was short-sighted was because of the following reasons: - Edge development would remain very sluggish compared to the development of Chrome and Firefox, as new major features would have to wait until Windows itself gets new major features (which happens every 6 months, rather than 6 weeks). - It would mean Edge would not be cross-platform, a huge strategic mistake on Microsoft's part. People want to use the same browser across devices. - The proprietary "features" Microsoft would build in Edge over time that only work with certain versions of Windows will come back to bite it in the ass in the future.

benj111 8y ago
>"- It would mean Edge would not be cross-platform, a huge strategic mistake on Microsoft's part. People want to use the same browser across devices" Realy? Id prefer different browsers optimised for the device. I don't even think theres much similarity between the desktop and the mobile browser anyway. Any benefits other than bookmark sharing etc?

negativegate 8y ago

I didn't see any mention of Windows 7 or that it won't be a UWP on Windows, are there more details somewhere?

mrpippy 8y ago
Agreed. I see zero chance that Edge will suddenly be ported back to Windows 7. And it would be almost as big of a shock if the Chromium-based Edge is not UWP.
- pilif 8y ago
  The blog post says it's coming to all supported versions of windows. Until 2020, that includes Windows 7 and 8
  - mrpippy 8y ago
    In this case, I think "supported" means what Microsoft calls "Mainstream Support" (1). Windows 7 and 8.1 are both in "Extended Support", which only gets security updates. Mainstream support for Win7 ended in 2015, for Win8.1 in January 2018. The only mainstream supported versions of Windows are various Windows 10 editions. (1) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/14085/microsoft-business-developer-and-desktop-operating-systems-policy https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/14085/microsoft-bus...
- mrpippy 8y ago
  I stand corrected--this is exactly what they're going to do. Take Win32 Chromium, rename it Edge, and build it for Win7, 8, and 10. What a huge blow to everyone at MS who believes in UWP. https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/6/18128648/microsoft-edge-chrome-chromium-browser-changes https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/6/18128648/microsoft-edge-c...
  - moogly 8y ago
    > What a huge blow to everyone at MS who believes in UWP. That may be so, but is there anyone outside of MS who believes in UWP? Not even stalwart MS exclusive devs seem to do so.