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"iMessage doesn't have single click to video, but it's also automatic." I don't think i got what you are saying... What do you mean automatic?

zapzupnz 8y ago
I suspect they mean that once you've logged in with your Apple ID, which is pretty much required to use an iOS device beyond the stock apps, iMessage and FaceTime both get set up. So, if setting up a phone for nana, you take it out of the box, set her up with an Apple ID, put it back in the box, send it to her, she takes it out of the box, and then you call or text her, all she has to do is answer the call. No futzing with downloading the right app, no having to make sure the person on the other end is using the same chat service; just doing it.
- tehlike 8y ago
  You cannot make everybody happy, i guess. If google opted in everyone to hangouts by default, people would go crazy (see chrome opting you into google accounts).
  - zapzupnz 8y ago
    I mean, it's not like it'd be terribly hard to have an initial setup screen asking if you'd like to use Hangouts or not. I wouldn't trust Google not to make it seem mandatory, though. Or to put it in just to please Europe but in actual fact just breeze past it.
notatoad 8y ago
you message somebody, and they get the message. you don't have to think about what app you're using or what app they're using.
- pas 8y ago
  And if you are somewhere where SMS is not free, you might get a hefty bill.
- crottypeter 8y ago
  Also it's very hard to debug... A friend on iOS think he has sent you a (SMS) text message. You don't get it on your (non-apple) phone. You don't get it on your (non-apple) work computer. Three weeks later you log on to your iMac/mac-mini/whatever that you hardly ever use to find messages from whoever uses apple phones and has your email address on their contacts. It turns out that logging in to your desktop PC can link your AppleId (email address) to iMessage and start swallowing your text messages. You can only rectify this setting on an apple computer. (Yes, I know I'm an edge case but I will never see iMessage as a good thing, walled gardens can suck).
  - aerique 8y ago
    No, you're not an edge case. iMessage does indeed not "work automatic" if you're not fully into the Apple eco system.

zapzupnz 8y ago

I suspect they mean that once you've logged in with your Apple ID, which is pretty much required to use an iOS device beyond the stock apps, iMessage and FaceTime both get set up. So, if setting up a phone for nana, you take it out of the box, set her up with an Apple ID, put it back in the box, send it to her, she takes it out of the box, and then you call or text her, all she has to do is answer the call. No futzing with downloading the right app, no having to make sure the person on the other end is using the same chat service; just doing it.

tehlike 8y ago
You cannot make everybody happy, i guess. If google opted in everyone to hangouts by default, people would go crazy (see chrome opting you into google accounts).
- zapzupnz 8y ago
  I mean, it's not like it'd be terribly hard to have an initial setup screen asking if you'd like to use Hangouts or not. I wouldn't trust Google not to make it seem mandatory, though. Or to put it in just to please Europe but in actual fact just breeze past it.

notatoad 8y ago

you message somebody, and they get the message. you don't have to think about what app you're using or what app they're using.

pas 8y ago
And if you are somewhere where SMS is not free, you might get a hefty bill.
crottypeter 8y ago
Also it's very hard to debug... A friend on iOS think he has sent you a (SMS) text message. You don't get it on your (non-apple) phone. You don't get it on your (non-apple) work computer. Three weeks later you log on to your iMac/mac-mini/whatever that you hardly ever use to find messages from whoever uses apple phones and has your email address on their contacts. It turns out that logging in to your desktop PC can link your AppleId (email address) to iMessage and start swallowing your text messages. You can only rectify this setting on an apple computer. (Yes, I know I'm an edge case but I will never see iMessage as a good thing, walled gardens can suck).
- aerique 8y ago
  No, you're not an edge case. iMessage does indeed not "work automatic" if you're not fully into the Apple eco system.