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Hopping from text to video in a single click is cool... But the #1 thing that stops me from even considering buying an Android device is "it's not iMessage".

Hopping from text to video in a single click is cool... But the #1 thing that stops me from even considering buying an Android device is "it's not iMessage". iMessage doesn't have single click to video, but it's also automatic. No hassle at all and I can blue bubble send perfection to any other iPhone-r. It's also synced to all my devices flawlessly. I think that's what is really missing. People don't mind opening another app to place call / facetime / hangout video. They want simple, clear phone messaging that isn't an "app"

bane 8y ago
That's basically Hangouts. I sms more from my computer than my phone but it's all synced everywhere. I'm even smsing with a co-worker from my tablet right now.
- JayNitram 8y ago
  Agreed, and it was even better before they reduced a lot of the functionality for non Fi users.
  - ryan_j_naughton 8y ago
    What functionality did they reduce for non-fi users?
    - deleted 8y ago
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- pookeh 8y ago
  iMessages integrates really well with os x...
  - grogenaut 8y ago
    os x, ios, and nothing else. That's the thing I like about gchat, it works everywhere.
    - pookeh 8y ago
      Sure but I am talking about the quality of product and the vision. There is coherence. Gchat works everywhere but is not well integrated with anything. Disclaimer: there are no ios devices in my house and I am android guy all the way. But wow does messaging suck compared to ios world
      - owenwil 8y ago
        There's coherence? Try sending a message with an effect to a Mac user. (Sent with Fireworks)
- ryan_j_naughton 8y ago
  Your "That's basically Hangouts" arrangements statement is true when it comes to: >It's also synced to all my devices flawlessly. But as for Hangouts being flawless messaging and not just some buggy app, I have to disagree. Often I'll type a message and hit send, it will stay in sending and never actually send. I'll need to kill the app and when I reopen, the message is gone but if I retype it and hit send, it sends immediately. This is on a Pixel 2 with Project Fi or WiFi. Clearly that aren't doing something properly and I feel quality of the app has degraded as their efforts go elsewhere, viz. Allo, messages, etc. Hangouts is flawless on the browser on my laptop though.
  - Dayshine 8y ago
    I've only ever had this happen on very very patchy internet connections. Usually when there's a captive portal that I haven't logged into (so the app doesn't know it's being blackholed).
  - jjulius 8y ago
    >Often I'll type a message and hit send, it will stay in sending and never actually send. I'll need to kill the app and when I reopen, the message is gone but if I retype it and hit send, it sends immediately. This is on a Pixel 2 with Project Fi or WiFi. I have a Pixel 2, with Project Fi, and haven't ever really had this issue.
tehlike 8y ago
"iMessage doesn't have single click to video, but it's also automatic." I don't think i got what you are saying... What do you mean automatic?
- zapzupnz 8y ago
  I suspect they mean that once you've logged in with your Apple ID, which is pretty much required to use an iOS device beyond the stock apps, iMessage and FaceTime both get set up. So, if setting up a phone for nana, you take it out of the box, set her up with an Apple ID, put it back in the box, send it to her, she takes it out of the box, and then you call or text her, all she has to do is answer the call. No futzing with downloading the right app, no having to make sure the person on the other end is using the same chat service; just doing it.
  - tehlike 8y ago
    You cannot make everybody happy, i guess. If google opted in everyone to hangouts by default, people would go crazy (see chrome opting you into google accounts).
    - zapzupnz 8y ago
      I mean, it's not like it'd be terribly hard to have an initial setup screen asking if you'd like to use Hangouts or not. I wouldn't trust Google not to make it seem mandatory, though. Or to put it in just to please Europe but in actual fact just breeze past it.
- notatoad 8y ago
  you message somebody, and they get the message. you don't have to think about what app you're using or what app they're using.
  - pas 8y ago
    And if you are somewhere where SMS is not free, you might get a hefty bill.
samstave 8y ago
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- larkinrichards 8y ago
  Don’t let a company use your personal Apple account... nothing new there.
- ovao 8y ago
  Why did you let your employer effectively commandeer your personal phone number?
- deleted 8y ago
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- kbar13 8y ago
  not an imessage problem but a your employer problem. you know the spiel that chrome puts up when you open an incognito tab?
philtar 8y ago
More than one billion people on whatsapp disagree with you.
- planb 8y ago
  That's not really implied. I'm also on Whatsapp (to communicate with Android users) but I agree with every word in that comment.
alimbada 8y ago
Sounds like the Unix philosophy: "Do one thing and do it well."

bane 8y ago

That's basically Hangouts. I sms more from my computer than my phone but it's all synced everywhere. I'm even smsing with a co-worker from my tablet right now.

JayNitram 8y ago
Agreed, and it was even better before they reduced a lot of the functionality for non Fi users.
- ryan_j_naughton 8y ago
  What functionality did they reduce for non-fi users?
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]
pookeh 8y ago
iMessages integrates really well with os x...
- grogenaut 8y ago
  os x, ios, and nothing else. That's the thing I like about gchat, it works everywhere.
  - pookeh 8y ago
    Sure but I am talking about the quality of product and the vision. There is coherence. Gchat works everywhere but is not well integrated with anything. Disclaimer: there are no ios devices in my house and I am android guy all the way. But wow does messaging suck compared to ios world
    - owenwil 8y ago
      There's coherence? Try sending a message with an effect to a Mac user. (Sent with Fireworks)
ryan_j_naughton 8y ago
Your "That's basically Hangouts" arrangements statement is true when it comes to: >It's also synced to all my devices flawlessly. But as for Hangouts being flawless messaging and not just some buggy app, I have to disagree. Often I'll type a message and hit send, it will stay in sending and never actually send. I'll need to kill the app and when I reopen, the message is gone but if I retype it and hit send, it sends immediately. This is on a Pixel 2 with Project Fi or WiFi. Clearly that aren't doing something properly and I feel quality of the app has degraded as their efforts go elsewhere, viz. Allo, messages, etc. Hangouts is flawless on the browser on my laptop though.
- Dayshine 8y ago
  I've only ever had this happen on very very patchy internet connections. Usually when there's a captive portal that I haven't logged into (so the app doesn't know it's being blackholed).
- jjulius 8y ago
  >Often I'll type a message and hit send, it will stay in sending and never actually send. I'll need to kill the app and when I reopen, the message is gone but if I retype it and hit send, it sends immediately. This is on a Pixel 2 with Project Fi or WiFi. I have a Pixel 2, with Project Fi, and haven't ever really had this issue.

tehlike 8y ago

"iMessage doesn't have single click to video, but it's also automatic." I don't think i got what you are saying... What do you mean automatic?

zapzupnz 8y ago
I suspect they mean that once you've logged in with your Apple ID, which is pretty much required to use an iOS device beyond the stock apps, iMessage and FaceTime both get set up. So, if setting up a phone for nana, you take it out of the box, set her up with an Apple ID, put it back in the box, send it to her, she takes it out of the box, and then you call or text her, all she has to do is answer the call. No futzing with downloading the right app, no having to make sure the person on the other end is using the same chat service; just doing it.
- tehlike 8y ago
  You cannot make everybody happy, i guess. If google opted in everyone to hangouts by default, people would go crazy (see chrome opting you into google accounts).
  - zapzupnz 8y ago
    I mean, it's not like it'd be terribly hard to have an initial setup screen asking if you'd like to use Hangouts or not. I wouldn't trust Google not to make it seem mandatory, though. Or to put it in just to please Europe but in actual fact just breeze past it.
notatoad 8y ago
you message somebody, and they get the message. you don't have to think about what app you're using or what app they're using.
- pas 8y ago
  And if you are somewhere where SMS is not free, you might get a hefty bill.

samstave 8y ago

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larkinrichards 8y ago
Don’t let a company use your personal Apple account... nothing new there.
ovao 8y ago
Why did you let your employer effectively commandeer your personal phone number?
deleted 8y ago
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kbar13 8y ago
not an imessage problem but a your employer problem. you know the spiel that chrome puts up when you open an incognito tab?

philtar 8y ago

More than one billion people on whatsapp disagree with you.

planb 8y ago
That's not really implied. I'm also on Whatsapp (to communicate with Android users) but I agree with every word in that comment.

alimbada 8y ago

Sounds like the Unix philosophy: "Do one thing and do it well."