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Who is “we?” People who look like me, a white person, who did mean things two centuries before I was born? Speak for yourself.

by _iyig 8y ago

api 8y ago
It's common to use "we" to describe past acts of one's nation or lineage even before one was born, whether positive or negative. "We" landed on the moon too, but I had no part in it and you likely did not either.
- sremani 8y ago
  Why the fuck would an American have kinship with British east India company? If you want to wallow in white guilt, don’t drag us with you. The people dying of opioid crisis are of all ethnicities.
  - sintaxi 8y ago
    > The people dying of opioid crisis are of all ethnicities. If you think the opioid epidemic is happening everywhere you have more research to do. This problem is targeted and deliberate.
  - api 8y ago
    I don't feel any personal guilt. Just saying history is history and understanding it helps explain what is happening today.
  - dang 8y ago
    Posting flamewar comments like this will get you banned here. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use HN as intended from now on.
myrryr 8y ago
Make no mistake, China remembers.
- _iyig 8y ago
  Pointless grudges harm those who harbor them.
liftbigweights 8y ago
> Who is “we?” People who look like me, a white person, who did mean things two centuries before I was born? "We" as in the nation or government? And it wasn't 2 centuries ago. We were colonizing china up until 1949. People truly do not understand how much "we" ( as in the US and imperial europe ) screwed over china. I bet not 1 in a 1000 americans knows that the US were imperial colonizers in china even after ww2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol
- walshemj 8y ago
  But this is hardly the opium wars is it - not that the PRC is not adverse to whipping up nationalistic propaganda over it.

Who is “we?” People who look like me, a white person, who did mean things two centuries before I was born? Speak for yourself.

by _iyig 8y ago

Who is “we?” People who look like me, a white person, who did mean things two centuries before I was born? Speak for yourself.

api 8y ago

It's common to use "we" to describe past acts of one's nation or lineage even before one was born, whether positive or negative. "We" landed on the moon too, but I had no part in it and you likely did not either.

sremani 8y ago
Why the fuck would an American have kinship with British east India company? If you want to wallow in white guilt, don’t drag us with you. The people dying of opioid crisis are of all ethnicities.
- sintaxi 8y ago
  > The people dying of opioid crisis are of all ethnicities. If you think the opioid epidemic is happening everywhere you have more research to do. This problem is targeted and deliberate.
- api 8y ago
  I don't feel any personal guilt. Just saying history is history and understanding it helps explain what is happening today.
- dang 8y ago
  Posting flamewar comments like this will get you banned here. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use HN as intended from now on.

myrryr 8y ago

Make no mistake, China remembers.

_iyig 8y ago
Pointless grudges harm those who harbor them.

liftbigweights 8y ago

> Who is “we?” People who look like me, a white person, who did mean things two centuries before I was born? "We" as in the nation or government? And it wasn't 2 centuries ago. We were colonizing china up until 1949. People truly do not understand how much "we" ( as in the US and imperial europe ) screwed over china. I bet not 1 in a 1000 americans knows that the US were imperial colonizers in china even after ww2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol

walshemj 8y ago
But this is hardly the opium wars is it - not that the PRC is not adverse to whipping up nationalistic propaganda over it.