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Fentanyl only exists on the dark web because of the Chinese labs pumping it out. Wake up! The Chinese government policy is to look the other way if you aren't s

Fentanyl only exists on the dark web because of the Chinese labs pumping it out. Wake up! The Chinese government policy is to look the other way if you aren't selling the drugs inside China. They see this as just revenge for the British selling opium in China. This is directly responsible for thousands of deaths in the US. Execute the scum bringing this into our countries! What can we do about this? Direct trade punishments for allowing this to happen. Hit them the only place they care, in the bank account and this would stop Quickly!

8note 8y ago
The next step would be for china to invade and force a change in US laws to allow fentanyl
- api 8y ago
  ... which would be exactly what we did right?
  - solotronics 8y ago
    What does anything we do today have to do with the actions of people two hundred years ago? Grow up!
  - _iyig 8y ago
    Who is “we?” People who look like me, a white person, who did mean things two centuries before I was born? Speak for yourself.
    - api 8y ago
      It's common to use "we" to describe past acts of one's nation or lineage even before one was born, whether positive or negative. "We" landed on the moon too, but I had no part in it and you likely did not either.
      - sremani 8y ago
        Why the fuck would an American have kinship with British east India company? If you want to wallow in white guilt, don’t drag us with you. The people dying of opioid crisis are of all ethnicities.
        sintaxi 8y ago
        > The people dying of opioid crisis are of all ethnicities. If you think the opioid epidemic is happening everywhere you have more research to do. This problem is targeted and deliberate.
        api 8y ago
        I don't feel any personal guilt. Just saying history is history and understanding it helps explain what is happening today.
        dang 8y ago
        Posting flamewar comments like this will get you banned here. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use HN as intended from now on.
    - myrryr 8y ago
      Make no mistake, China remembers.
      - _iyig 8y ago
        Pointless grudges harm those who harbor them.
    - liftbigweights 8y ago
      > Who is “we?” People who look like me, a white person, who did mean things two centuries before I was born? "We" as in the nation or government? And it wasn't 2 centuries ago. We were colonizing china up until 1949. People truly do not understand how much "we" ( as in the US and imperial europe ) screwed over china. I bet not 1 in a 1000 americans knows that the US were imperial colonizers in china even after ww2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol
      - walshemj 8y ago
        But this is hardly the opium wars is it - not that the PRC is not adverse to whipping up nationalistic propaganda over it.
morpheuskafka 8y ago
China (to be clear, we are talking about the PRC/Jinping regime, not the Chinese people) is a menace to freedom and stability in the free world. They steal our IP, infiltrate our companies, and place their population in concentration camps in the world's largest police state--meanwhile, our companies like Google and Microsoft continue to work hand in hand with the CCP regime to develop products customized to suit regime needs and rules. The map in this article should scare anyone who cares about a Soviet-style dictatorship taking over nearly every continent: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/world-built-by-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/wo...
- DyslexicAtheist 8y ago
  America (to be clear, we are talking about the US Trump/Bush/Clinton/Obama regime, not the American people) is a menace to freedom and stability in the whole world. They steal our oil, infiltrate our companies, and place children in cages, and their minority and poor population incarcerated. Suspects are held without being charged indefinitely at black prison sites and tortured. They are the world's largest police state--meanwhile, our companies continue to work hand in hand with the US/Trump regime to develop products customized to suit regime needs and rules.
  - Para2016 8y ago
    This kind of rebuttal belongs on Yahoo news comments. It definitely decreases the value of HN comments overall.
  - castratikron 8y ago
    It's invalid to criticize China policy because America does similar things? Is that what you're saying?
    - yholio 8y ago
      He is actually saying same things that were said about China, in the same words, but about US. It's a rhetorical move to force the interlocutors to change their perspective and examine their own prejudices. To me, both comments read like hateful propaganda rooted in prejudice.
liftbigweights 8y ago
> Fentanyl only exists on the dark web because of the Chinese labs pumping it out. Wake up! The chinese labs wouldn't be pumping out fentanyl if people weren't demanding it. If it isn't china producing it, it would be produce elsewhere ( even in the US ). Stop with your scapegoating rhetoric. > They see this as just revenge for the British selling opium in China. It wasn't just the british. A huge part of the US industrial and political power derived from colonizing china. https://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/28/opinion/the-opium-war-s-secret-history.html https://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/28/opinion/the-opium-war-s-s... And we were a colonial power in china until 1949. Well after ww2 ended. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol Though I disagree with your fearmongering and your erroneous equating of the US with britain, I do agree that we have to come to terms with china one day over our historical transgressions and their future ambitions. It's inevitable at the very least that china will want the US our of east asia and possibly want retribution for a century of brutal colonization/humiliation/rape of china. How these issues get resolved will determine the future of the US, China and the world in the 21st century.
- sintaxi 8y ago
  > The chinese labs wouldn't be pumping out fentanyl if people weren't demanding it. Unsuspecting people are becoming addicted to Fentanyl because it is being cut into other drugs they are taking without their knowledge. It started with Heroin and has now moved into other drugs. Even Xanax has been found to have Fentanyl in it. So if you think this came about via supply & demand you should do some more research on the topic.
dang 8y ago
Nationalistic flamewar is not welcome on Hacker News. Please don't post like this again, regardless of which nation you favor or disfavor. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

8note 8y ago

The next step would be for china to invade and force a change in US laws to allow fentanyl

api 8y ago
... which would be exactly what we did right?
- solotronics 8y ago
  What does anything we do today have to do with the actions of people two hundred years ago? Grow up!
- _iyig 8y ago
  Who is “we?” People who look like me, a white person, who did mean things two centuries before I was born? Speak for yourself.
  - api 8y ago
    It's common to use "we" to describe past acts of one's nation or lineage even before one was born, whether positive or negative. "We" landed on the moon too, but I had no part in it and you likely did not either.
    - sremani 8y ago
      Why the fuck would an American have kinship with British east India company? If you want to wallow in white guilt, don’t drag us with you. The people dying of opioid crisis are of all ethnicities.
      - sintaxi 8y ago
        > The people dying of opioid crisis are of all ethnicities. If you think the opioid epidemic is happening everywhere you have more research to do. This problem is targeted and deliberate.
      - api 8y ago
        I don't feel any personal guilt. Just saying history is history and understanding it helps explain what is happening today.
      - dang 8y ago
        Posting flamewar comments like this will get you banned here. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use HN as intended from now on.
  - myrryr 8y ago
    Make no mistake, China remembers.
    - _iyig 8y ago
      Pointless grudges harm those who harbor them.
  - liftbigweights 8y ago
    > Who is “we?” People who look like me, a white person, who did mean things two centuries before I was born? "We" as in the nation or government? And it wasn't 2 centuries ago. We were colonizing china up until 1949. People truly do not understand how much "we" ( as in the US and imperial europe ) screwed over china. I bet not 1 in a 1000 americans knows that the US were imperial colonizers in china even after ww2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol
    - walshemj 8y ago
      But this is hardly the opium wars is it - not that the PRC is not adverse to whipping up nationalistic propaganda over it.

morpheuskafka 8y ago

China (to be clear, we are talking about the PRC/Jinping regime, not the Chinese people) is a menace to freedom and stability in the free world. They steal our IP, infiltrate our companies, and place their population in concentration camps in the world's largest police state--meanwhile, our companies like Google and Microsoft continue to work hand in hand with the CCP regime to develop products customized to suit regime needs and rules. The map in this article should scare anyone who cares about a Soviet-style dictatorship taking over nearly every continent: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/world-built-by-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/wo...

DyslexicAtheist 8y ago
America (to be clear, we are talking about the US Trump/Bush/Clinton/Obama regime, not the American people) is a menace to freedom and stability in the whole world. They steal our oil, infiltrate our companies, and place children in cages, and their minority and poor population incarcerated. Suspects are held without being charged indefinitely at black prison sites and tortured. They are the world's largest police state--meanwhile, our companies continue to work hand in hand with the US/Trump regime to develop products customized to suit regime needs and rules.
- Para2016 8y ago
  This kind of rebuttal belongs on Yahoo news comments. It definitely decreases the value of HN comments overall.
- castratikron 8y ago
  It's invalid to criticize China policy because America does similar things? Is that what you're saying?
  - yholio 8y ago
    He is actually saying same things that were said about China, in the same words, but about US. It's a rhetorical move to force the interlocutors to change their perspective and examine their own prejudices. To me, both comments read like hateful propaganda rooted in prejudice.

liftbigweights 8y ago

> Fentanyl only exists on the dark web because of the Chinese labs pumping it out. Wake up! The chinese labs wouldn't be pumping out fentanyl if people weren't demanding it. If it isn't china producing it, it would be produce elsewhere ( even in the US ). Stop with your scapegoating rhetoric. > They see this as just revenge for the British selling opium in China. It wasn't just the british. A huge part of the US industrial and political power derived from colonizing china. https://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/28/opinion/the-opium-war-s-secret-history.html https://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/28/opinion/the-opium-war-s-s... And we were a colonial power in china until 1949. Well after ww2 ended. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol Though I disagree with your fearmongering and your erroneous equating of the US with britain, I do agree that we have to come to terms with china one day over our historical transgressions and their future ambitions. It's inevitable at the very least that china will want the US our of east asia and possibly want retribution for a century of brutal colonization/humiliation/rape of china. How these issues get resolved will determine the future of the US, China and the world in the 21st century.

sintaxi 8y ago
> The chinese labs wouldn't be pumping out fentanyl if people weren't demanding it. Unsuspecting people are becoming addicted to Fentanyl because it is being cut into other drugs they are taking without their knowledge. It started with Heroin and has now moved into other drugs. Even Xanax has been found to have Fentanyl in it. So if you think this came about via supply & demand you should do some more research on the topic.

dang 8y ago

Nationalistic flamewar is not welcome on Hacker News. Please don't post like this again, regardless of which nation you favor or disfavor. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html