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>Google is terrible at this. They have no credible replacement for Hangouts, do they? I used and loved the old Google Talk. Then they shuttered it and pushed ev
by pathseeker 8y ago
>Google is terrible at this. They have no credible replacement for Hangouts, do they? I used and loved the old Google Talk. Then they shuttered it and pushed everyone to Hangouts, which is...the same? Not better, not worse, just a very similar experience, with maybe better voice/video support.
It's not even the same. It's worse. I used to be able to use XMPP.
- metildaa 8y agoDidn't Google just recently rewrite the infrastructure that supports Hangouts? IIRC that caused many Google Voice integrations to break, as they ripped out what was left of their siloed XMPP stack. Why invest all this labor, only to announce shutdown of Hangouts a few months later?
- 0x54D5 8y agoThe new Google Chat for G Suites is actually not even chat. Each chatroom is a collection of Google Wave style cards that jump over each other as activity happens in different ones. The experience is so bad I wrote a blog post about it here. https://technex.us/2018/11/google_chat_is_the_worst_desktop_chat_program_I_have_ever_used/ https://technex.us/2018/11/google_chat_is_the_worst_desktop_...
- brazzledazzle 8y agoWe used it as a backup one day when our normal chat service went down. I closed it within 5 minutes and I didn’t even hit your issues which are way worse. What a shit show.
- kageneko 8y agoUggh. Yeah. We've been required to use it at work, if we want real-time chat. We were using Slack before, but it was taken off the authorization list. I made a long list of things that was wrong with it while we were with it. The notifications are the worst so far. Constant notification spam for every single message. I disabled everything ... and it still sent them. I had to turn them off in iOS.
- taurath 8y agoBecause people at google need promotions and launches are one of the few good ways to get them.
- rixrax 8y agoOr maybe they are too busy protesting[0][1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][..] instead of focusing on product ;-) Interestingly, before 2017, very few (no?) public news of them employees walking out or protesting publicly @ Google. It's almost like Sergey going to the airport to protest opened the floodgates[6]. The Times They Are a-Changin' (or no good deed goes unpunished...). [0] https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/27/read-google-employees-open-letter-protesting-project-dragonfly.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/27/read-google-employees-open-l... [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/11/01/google-employees-worldwide-begin-walkout-over-allegations-sexual-harassment-inequality-within-company/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f346e580366b https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/11/01/google-em... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/technology/google-employees-protest-search-censored-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/technology/google-employe... [3] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/technology/google-letter-ceo-pentagon-project.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/technology/google-letter-... [4] https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/30/google-employees-protest-trump.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/30/google-employees-protest-tru... [5] https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/07/542020041/google-grapples-with-fallout-after-employee-slams-diversity-efforts https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/07/542020041... [6] https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14428262/google-sergey-brin https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14428262/google-sergey-br... [7] https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/14/google-employees-speak-out-about-government-spying/ https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/14/google-employees-s... [8] https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2012/01/sopa-blackout-wikipedia-google-wired-join-protest-against-internet-censorship/ https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2012/01/sopa-blackou... [..] https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2011/10/12/whoops-google-engineer-accidentally-makes-his-plus-sucks-rant-public/#b9697f26cb4f https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2011/10/12/whoops-g...
- aokiji 8y agoI am sorry for your downvotes. This was another hit-and-run by globalist manipulators and their far-left islamofascist pawns.
- mtgx 8y agoPerformance wise it's much worse, too. Hangouts has always been a bloates mess. Only on recent high performance smartphones that hasn't been obvious.