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> When we tried to eradicate it forcefully (communism), bad things happened This is a little disingenuous. Yes, states described as communist attempted to era
by zapzupnz 8y ago
> When we tried to eradicate it forcefully (communism), bad things happened
This is a little disingenuous.
Yes, states described as communist attempted to eradicate religion; to do that, they merely replaced religion with the state. The state became the church, its leaders became the saints.
Don't conflate the example of failed, corrupt Stalinist communist states with the concept of the eradication of religion, they're not at all mutually inclusive.
- maratd 8y ago> The state became the church, its leaders became the saints. Can you name a single attempt to eradicate religion that didn't end up with the very description you provide?
- zapzupnz 8y agoNo, but history’s follies are not the full extent of all possibilities and potential consequences.
- dempseye 8y agoStalin brought back the orthodox church after Lenin got rid of it. When Stalin died, Khruschev cracked down on the church again.
- maratd 8y agoNot quite. When he took power, he ruthlessly enforced atheism and slaughtered anyone who stood in his way. Only when he was fighting for his life with the Nazis did he find the Orthodox Church useful in his efforts. After he was done with the Nazis, he went back to his old tricks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union#Anti-religious_campaign_1928%E2%80%931941 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_t...
- dempseye 8y agoStalin's relative clemency towards the orthodox church does give the lie to the idea that the policy is "Stalinist." It was a Leninist policy of long standing. Khruschev reverted to it despite his explicit denunciation of Stalinism. > After he was done with the Nazis, he went back to his old tricks. According to the article you yourself linked, he was pretty soft on them from after the war until his death.