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My kid was born in September and I remember my wife doing a little research around that "for fun" (yeah, that's how she has fun) a while ago, how kids far and/o

by dudul 8y ago

My kid was born in September and I remember my wife doing a little research around that "for fun" (yeah, that's how she has fun) a while ago, how kids far and/or close to the cut off do. She found a few studies mentioning that older kids (like born between September and February or something) were doing way better in terms of the academics as well. Which in a way makes sense, but maybe indicates that either children start school too young or that programs are too agressive.

ngngngng 8y ago
On that note, my little brother repeated a year for academic reasons, but it also had benefits on sports. He's older than nearly anyone else in his grade (12th), and he's just about the best swimmer in the state. I only see positive benefits from his repeating a grade.
gizmo686 8y ago
I don't think it indicates that students start too young, as much as 1 year increments is too granular for grouping young children.
- dudul 8y ago
  That's a good point yeah. But I think when I said that younger kids didn't do as well it meant both in terms of ranking (they were in the lowest percentiles) which indicates that they don't do as well as their peer, but also in terms of future opportunities to attend college or university.
- pbhjpbhj 8y ago
  This. My older kids have birthdays later in the academic year but have ended up in groups for more advanced students. Mind, nursery was a complete wash when it came to academics -- learning to count to 3 when you can already count to 20 is rather futile. Public schools just can't tailor to individual students. Socially though, nursery was well timed for them IMO.
thetest3r 8y ago
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-your-birthday-affects-your-chances-of-success-2014-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/how-your-birthday-affects-yo...
thrower123 8y ago
I do suspect that there is an emphasis on pushing little children harder academically now than there was in the past. They were still doing half-day kindergarten when I was five, and the majority of the curriculum was "don't bite the other kids and play nicely." The height of first-grade was basic phonics, single digit addition and subtraction, and coloring between the lines.

by dudul 8y ago

ngngngng 8y ago

On that note, my little brother repeated a year for academic reasons, but it also had benefits on sports. He's older than nearly anyone else in his grade (12th), and he's just about the best swimmer in the state. I only see positive benefits from his repeating a grade.

gizmo686 8y ago

I don't think it indicates that students start too young, as much as 1 year increments is too granular for grouping young children.

dudul 8y ago
That's a good point yeah. But I think when I said that younger kids didn't do as well it meant both in terms of ranking (they were in the lowest percentiles) which indicates that they don't do as well as their peer, but also in terms of future opportunities to attend college or university.
pbhjpbhj 8y ago
This. My older kids have birthdays later in the academic year but have ended up in groups for more advanced students. Mind, nursery was a complete wash when it came to academics -- learning to count to 3 when you can already count to 20 is rather futile. Public schools just can't tailor to individual students. Socially though, nursery was well timed for them IMO.

thetest3r 8y ago

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-your-birthday-affects-your-chances-of-success-2014-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/how-your-birthday-affects-yo...

thrower123 8y ago

I do suspect that there is an emphasis on pushing little children harder academically now than there was in the past. They were still doing half-day kindergarten when I was five, and the majority of the curriculum was "don't bite the other kids and play nicely." The height of first-grade was basic phonics, single digit addition and subtraction, and coloring between the lines.