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Post WWII (and even before the end) the US quickly pivoted towards the "cold war" with the Soviet Union. From the interview you linked: "...Dulles was one of
by josefresco 8y ago
Post WWII (and even before the end) the US quickly pivoted towards the "cold war" with the Soviet Union. From the interview you linked:
"...Dulles was one of the intelligence titans of the 1950s, one of the original cold warriors. And he was someone who believed that there were, quote-unquote, “moderate Nazis,” his words, who the U.S. could use to its advantage in the Cold War. And he actively recruited them himself and, in a number of cases, intervened on their behalf when they were facing accusations about their past, about their involvement in Nazi war crimes. And he and J. Edgar Hoover were really the two linchpins in this, in developing this strategy of recruiting ex-Nazis as cold warriors, as anti-Soviet assets who, they believe, could gather intelligence for the U.S."
Dulles was not a perfect man, and holds much of the blame when it comes to US/corporate colonialism but to suggest the CIA was "built with" Nazis is taking it too far. To suggest that the Nazi legacy of the CIA somehow is connected to current day abuses of power is an even further leap of logic. Dulles saw former Nazis as valuable tools in his war/wars - there's not much else to it.
Recommended reading if you're curious about the CIA and it's origins, and how it effected/effects US policy: https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Foster-Dulles-Allen-Secret/dp/0805094970 https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Foster-Dulles-Allen-Secret/d...
- mmjaa 8y ago>To suggest that the Nazi legacy of the CIA somehow is connected to current day abuses of power is an even further leap of logic. On the contrary: MK ULTRA. Agent Orange. Secret torture sites.
- josefresco 8y agoTorture and abhorrent behavior is not exclusive to Nazis. How many other intelligence agencies have used barbaric tactics to extract information to keep their homeland safe? I just don't see the direct connection - doesn't make it any less wrong, I just don't see the evidence that it's directly influenced by this connection.
- mmjaa 8y agoMK ULTRA was a Nazi program that continued in the CIA. The development of Agent Orange: same. Modern torture techniques? Yes, same deal. The Nazi's escaped and made America their new playground. This is why we have had endless war and crimes against humanity being committed by the people of the USA .. for decades now ..
- adventured 8y agoGermany is where ~99% of all former Nazis lived after the war. So why hasn't Germany been spending their time invading all of their neighbors and genociding peoples? Why aren't they by far the most militaristic nation of the post WW2 era? It's because your premise is false.
- mmjaa 8y agoOur failure to come to an understanding over this, admittedly inflammatory issue, may be because you think to me "Nazi" means "Germans", and of course literally it does. But in the outraged claim that "America is the 4th Reich", kthxbai, there is a curious position you perhaps would not have considered .. the crimes against humanity committed by America and its allies, on the basis of entirely projected (i.e. not defensive) power, is pretty much what the Nazi's would be doing - dropping bombs on innocent people with impunity - were they still here today, speaking German. I care not iota that America are the new oppressors. I care, really, that the oppression is occurring. The new American boot is just as heinous as the old German ones were.