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Bear in mind though that Ebay Japan does not target EU/no/ch customers, which is a requirement for the "big reach" of the GDPR. Wikipedia excerpt: "... for all

Bear in mind though that Ebay Japan does not target EU/no/ch customers, which is a requirement for the "big reach" of the GDPR. Wikipedia excerpt: "... for all individuals within the European Union (EU) and the European Economic Area (EEA)." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regula...

EinsDueTresFour 8y ago
It is likely though that, if GDPR proves effective, other countries will soon follow suit and implement a similar set of data protection regulations. Perhaps by then companies around the world will be forced into paying more attention to these matters, and a system of reward for white hats may become the norm.
- pojzon 8y ago
  With GDPR version in each country after some time the best market will be for companies to lawsuit other IT companies over violations.. After some time smaller companies will be forced to work on market siloses, to not jave to worry about such lawsuits.
CathyWest 8y ago
EinsDueTresFour: I see I'm not the only one who's been shadowbanned for refusing to march to the drum of the Silicon Valley fat cats.
XCabbage 8y ago
I've generally read on Hacker News that having EU users is sufficient to put you within the GDPR's reach, and that for a web service there's therefore nothing that will protect you besides IP-blocking Europe. The quote that you provide here that supposedly shows that the GDPR is irrelevant to Ebay Japan does not in fact contradict that claim. Do you have an excerpt or other source that does?
- yc-kraln 8y ago
  Amusingly, if a European citizen is not in Europe, they are also covered, so IP banning Europe will not help you.
  - ashelmire 8y ago
    The analysis I’ve seen from lawyers is that it only applies to EU citizens inside the EU.
  - strictnein 8y ago
    That's not how things work. You don't get to bring your laws with you when you travel.
- shittyadmin 8y ago
  > I've generally read on Hacker News that having EU users is sufficient to put you within the GDPR's reach, and that for a web service there's therefore nothing that will protect you besides IP-blocking Europe. This is fairly ridiculous, if you're have no European presence, you're free to ignore the GDPR. The EU has no legal jurisdiction over you, the only recourse would be for the EU to block your site and that's just not going to happen - no one wants to see a Great Firewall of the EU, can you imagine the backlash?
  - Scoundreller 8y ago
    If you have EU TLDs, maybe you could lose those domains? Or your trademarks become unenforceable in EU? Imagine the mess if I start usatoday.eu, but « focussed only on the EU market ». Since .com doesn’t operate in the EU market because of GDPR, am I really infringing in their mark?
    - r3bl 8y ago
      A prerequisite for "purchasing" (renting) a .eu TLD is that you're a European Union citizen. Technically, it's against the ToS to rent one to anyone else. If they're not aiming for the market, I think they also can't get .eu domain. That being said, it sure will be fun when all the British people/corporations won't be able to renew their .eu domains no more!

EinsDueTresFour 8y ago

It is likely though that, if GDPR proves effective, other countries will soon follow suit and implement a similar set of data protection regulations. Perhaps by then companies around the world will be forced into paying more attention to these matters, and a system of reward for white hats may become the norm.

pojzon 8y ago
With GDPR version in each country after some time the best market will be for companies to lawsuit other IT companies over violations.. After some time smaller companies will be forced to work on market siloses, to not jave to worry about such lawsuits.

CathyWest 8y ago

EinsDueTresFour: I see I'm not the only one who's been shadowbanned for refusing to march to the drum of the Silicon Valley fat cats.

XCabbage 8y ago

I've generally read on Hacker News that having EU users is sufficient to put you within the GDPR's reach, and that for a web service there's therefore nothing that will protect you besides IP-blocking Europe. The quote that you provide here that supposedly shows that the GDPR is irrelevant to Ebay Japan does not in fact contradict that claim. Do you have an excerpt or other source that does?

yc-kraln 8y ago
Amusingly, if a European citizen is not in Europe, they are also covered, so IP banning Europe will not help you.
- ashelmire 8y ago
  The analysis I’ve seen from lawyers is that it only applies to EU citizens inside the EU.
- strictnein 8y ago
  That's not how things work. You don't get to bring your laws with you when you travel.
shittyadmin 8y ago
> I've generally read on Hacker News that having EU users is sufficient to put you within the GDPR's reach, and that for a web service there's therefore nothing that will protect you besides IP-blocking Europe. This is fairly ridiculous, if you're have no European presence, you're free to ignore the GDPR. The EU has no legal jurisdiction over you, the only recourse would be for the EU to block your site and that's just not going to happen - no one wants to see a Great Firewall of the EU, can you imagine the backlash?
- Scoundreller 8y ago
  If you have EU TLDs, maybe you could lose those domains? Or your trademarks become unenforceable in EU? Imagine the mess if I start usatoday.eu, but « focussed only on the EU market ». Since .com doesn’t operate in the EU market because of GDPR, am I really infringing in their mark?
  - r3bl 8y ago
    A prerequisite for "purchasing" (renting) a .eu TLD is that you're a European Union citizen. Technically, it's against the ToS to rent one to anyone else. If they're not aiming for the market, I think they also can't get .eu domain. That being said, it sure will be fun when all the British people/corporations won't be able to renew their .eu domains no more!