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Dont forget AAPL! (who hesitated, but ended up capitulating on the iCloud front). I think the moral of the story here is that it's better to sell out from day
by tomlagier 8y ago
Dont forget AAPL! (who hesitated, but ended up capitulating on the iCloud front).
I think the moral of the story here is that it's better to sell out from day 1 than to be seen as a hypocrite.
- kodablah 8y ago> who hesitated Source? I was not aware there was any hesitation or even disagreement from Apple's side. Is there an Apple statement saying they disagree w/ Chinese government requests similar to the statements saying they disagree w/ US government requests? In their absence, is it safe to assume they agree since they have shown that when they disagree they make public statements?
- bduerst 8y agoThey didn't really hesitate, they just dodged questions. Apple moved their user data and keystore to local datacenters in China [1]. Apple even updated their TOS and forced their Chinese users to accept (or drop service) to reflect this. As of July, these datacenters were nationalized [2], giving the Chinese government access to all Apple user data. It took only two years to go from refusing the FBI request for one user to handing over the encryption keys to millions of users. [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insight/apple-moves-to-store-icloud-keys-in-china-raising-human-rights-fears-idUSKCN1G8060 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insigh... [2] https://mashable.com/article/china-government-apple-icloud-data/#6Dx2PL68CiqC https://mashable.com/article/china-government-apple-icloud-d...
- retromario 8y agofyi neither of your links work.
- bduerst 8y agoFixed - thanks.
- Aeolun 8y agoNot selling out loses all meaning the moment you do.