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This system seems dumber and simpler than I had imagined it would be. I had guessed the face recognition system would be linked to each citizen's cellphone (i.e

by danso 8y ago

This system seems dumber and simpler than I had imagined it would be. I had guessed the face recognition system would be linked to each citizen's cellphone (i.e. GPS coordinates). How else could it be so certain of any given person's identity, in densely and highly populated areas?

guitarbill 8y ago
On the other hand, would be pretty easy to fool then by leaving your phone at home.
- danso 8y ago
  That would leave the average citizen at a huge inconvenience, given how much of modern life is tied to smartphone usage. Doesn’t seem worth it just so you can go on a jaywalking/red-light-running spree.
  - guitarbill 8y ago
    I've managed to survive a few hours without my smartphone. I now also live in an American city made for cars, not humans, so "jaywalking" is basically required to make any sane progress. So for grocery shopping, it'd take that trade-off.
- pbhjpbhj 8y ago
  If you leave your phone at home the automated number plate reader you pass on the way out of your village/suburb/estate stops and locks your electric vehicle and you wait inside for 3 hours. A police tow truck takes you to court. Two days later you're releases by the [AI] judges clerk ... you decide to always carry your government ID enabled mobile device in future ...
mtgx 8y ago
All existing AI (and I mean all, even AlphaGo Zero, etc) is overhyped. With all of these systems the devil is always in the details and it's never as good as presented in a blog post or video. Often, even its creators don't realize about all of its shortcomings.
aga98mtl 8y ago
> How else could it be so certain of any given person's identity, in densely and highly populated areas? I'm pretty sure this is a fake story planted to hype some technology. Facial recognition cant identify in the wild one person among several million possible candidates with enough certainty for sending out fines.
Laforet 8y ago
Because the linked source is delibrately vague with the facts. The police there runs a electronic billaboard that displays images of jaywalkers in an attempt to shame them. The system apparently glitched and captured Ms Dong's face on a bus. Actual image linked below. http://e0.ifengimg.com/09/2018/1121/BE628A454E728C82D155ECCD550924E21294621A_size49_w690_h484.jpeg http://e0.ifengimg.com/09/2018/1121/BE628A454E728C82D155ECCD... I don't think anybody was fined over this - China is very much underpoliced and pedestrians pretty much make their own rules. Most people saw this as another joke in an act of.futility and move on. If anything, you should take this as an indication and treat all the circlejerk in Anglosphere about China and its social credit system with a huge grain of salt.

by danso 8y ago

guitarbill 8y ago

On the other hand, would be pretty easy to fool then by leaving your phone at home.

danso 8y ago
That would leave the average citizen at a huge inconvenience, given how much of modern life is tied to smartphone usage. Doesn’t seem worth it just so you can go on a jaywalking/red-light-running spree.
- guitarbill 8y ago
  I've managed to survive a few hours without my smartphone. I now also live in an American city made for cars, not humans, so "jaywalking" is basically required to make any sane progress. So for grocery shopping, it'd take that trade-off.
pbhjpbhj 8y ago
If you leave your phone at home the automated number plate reader you pass on the way out of your village/suburb/estate stops and locks your electric vehicle and you wait inside for 3 hours. A police tow truck takes you to court. Two days later you're releases by the [AI] judges clerk ... you decide to always carry your government ID enabled mobile device in future ...

mtgx 8y ago

All existing AI (and I mean all, even AlphaGo Zero, etc) is overhyped. With all of these systems the devil is always in the details and it's never as good as presented in a blog post or video. Often, even its creators don't realize about all of its shortcomings.

aga98mtl 8y ago

> How else could it be so certain of any given person's identity, in densely and highly populated areas? I'm pretty sure this is a fake story planted to hype some technology. Facial recognition cant identify in the wild one person among several million possible candidates with enough certainty for sending out fines.

Laforet 8y ago

Because the linked source is delibrately vague with the facts. The police there runs a electronic billaboard that displays images of jaywalkers in an attempt to shame them. The system apparently glitched and captured Ms Dong's face on a bus. Actual image linked below. http://e0.ifengimg.com/09/2018/1121/BE628A454E728C82D155ECCD550924E21294621A_size49_w690_h484.jpeg http://e0.ifengimg.com/09/2018/1121/BE628A454E728C82D155ECCD... I don't think anybody was fined over this - China is very much underpoliced and pedestrians pretty much make their own rules. Most people saw this as another joke in an act of.futility and move on. If anything, you should take this as an indication and treat all the circlejerk in Anglosphere about China and its social credit system with a huge grain of salt.