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Ignoring the fact that it's EXTREMELY easy to find links showing Apple's commitment to privacy: https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+privacy+efforts&oq=apple+

by tw04 8y ago

Ignoring the fact that it's EXTREMELY easy to find links showing Apple's commitment to privacy: https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+privacy+efforts&oq=apple+privacy+efforts https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+privacy+efforts&oq=app... https://www.apple.com/lae/privacy/approach-to-privacy/ https://www.apple.com/lae/privacy/approach-to-privacy/ https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/17/17989608/apple-data-download-tool-us-users-privacy-gdpr https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/17/17989608/apple-data-down... When you are the one making a claim refuting what is generally considered common knowledge, you're expected to provide SOME citation of your disputed claim... not to mention it's such a common internet troll tactic to spew BS just to make people do research to prove you're full of it that it's just kind of common courtesy to start with links (assuming you aren't a troll).

kcirtap-hs 8y ago
Equally easy to find recent articles outlining Apple is getting billions from Google to have Google search by default in Safari. Doesn’t sound fitting commitment to privacy. http://fortune.com/2018/09/29/google-apple-safari-search-engine/ http://fortune.com/2018/09/29/google-apple-safari-search-eng...
- Redoubts 8y ago
  You can change that to DDG with a click, if you want.
- Wowfunhappy 8y ago
  While I'm sure apple's default choices are partially profit-motivated, defaulting to Duck Duck Go would be a poor UX for the vast majority of iPhone customers. There is a valid discussion to be had as to whether UX or data privacy should be prioritized, but I'm inclined towards UX--most people just want to get the best search results possible. If anything, on the UX <--> privacy scale, I'd argue Apple has sometimes been prioritizing privacy too highly as of late. As a heavy user of custom Applescripts, the new TCC dialogs introduced in Mojave have been causing me a lot of grief.
codedokode 8y ago
What about transferring Chinese users' cloud data to a Chinese company? Is it a part of commitment to privacy too?

by tw04 8y ago

kcirtap-hs 8y ago

Equally easy to find recent articles outlining Apple is getting billions from Google to have Google search by default in Safari. Doesn’t sound fitting commitment to privacy. http://fortune.com/2018/09/29/google-apple-safari-search-engine/ http://fortune.com/2018/09/29/google-apple-safari-search-eng...

Redoubts 8y ago
You can change that to DDG with a click, if you want.
Wowfunhappy 8y ago
While I'm sure apple's default choices are partially profit-motivated, defaulting to Duck Duck Go would be a poor UX for the vast majority of iPhone customers. There is a valid discussion to be had as to whether UX or data privacy should be prioritized, but I'm inclined towards UX--most people just want to get the best search results possible. If anything, on the UX <--> privacy scale, I'd argue Apple has sometimes been prioritizing privacy too highly as of late. As a heavy user of custom Applescripts, the new TCC dialogs introduced in Mojave have been causing me a lot of grief.

codedokode 8y ago

What about transferring Chinese users' cloud data to a Chinese company? Is it a part of commitment to privacy too?