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> I made the category for women after receiving a suggestion from a partner You are still the one that made the decision to implement a one-sided feature, thou

> I made the category for women after receiving a suggestion from a partner You are still the one that made the decision to implement a one-sided feature, though, so you considered it worth it. > so I don't think you are so right to call me out on the supposed wrongdoing. The "supposed wrongodoing" is highlighting only women in the home page, which you do. It was not about not having other filters. > Religion & political ideology were 2 filters I wanted to implement prior to launch but I did not fearing controversy I wonder why you thought that providing only the categories that appeal only to a minority of people [1] was going to not be controversial. > the website's core concept is to find diverse users, as in minorities & underprivileged group That is not stated anywhere. The home page says clearly: "Search for Twitter users who share your interests and come from different backgrounds". > men don't happen to be one of those groups That is exactly the ideological bias I was calling out. Men make the majority of * homeless people * suicides * people in prison (and get longer sentences for the same crimes) * work related deaths (and the majority of the workforce in dangerous job) * victims of violence and homicides * deaths in war Women are overrepresented in college degrees, and are the majority in fields like medicine, education, psychology, and the humanities. The "pay gap" is a myth, since the difference in average earning is driven mainly by life choices and not by discrimination. The same is true for the lower percentage of women in tech. The idea that men are a "privileged" category is just ideology, like anything that prescribes a common characteristic to a broad group. And the idea that "POC" think differently that "white people" is, frankly, racist. [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/large-majorities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/large-majo...

tcodina 8y ago
I'm sorry, I find your comment pretty ridiculous in multiple aspects, and I'm honestly surprised you truly feel this way about the platform. What I understand from it, and the parent comment, is that you're simply stuck in the beliefs of "diversity has ruined men", men have it worse, etc. Unfortunately I might not be able to change your mind, but I hope you understand that the idea of the website was to make groups that were less easy to be found on Twitter (I'll ask, how many women, people of colour, LGBTQ+, people with disabilities and many other groups do you follow? Going to take the risk and say that not as many as men, by a big margin...). If that upsets you that's unfortunate, I am grateful for the people who were happy with the platform and sent me awesome positive comments. If you want to have a men-centric platform, you may make it yourself, go ahead. It's ironic how you seem to be the kind of person who would have benefited from such a website, getting you out of an echo chamber and seeing multiple perspectives.
- DeusExMachina 8y ago
  > What I understand from it, and the parent comment, is that you're simply stuck in the beliefs of "diversity has ruined men", men have it worse, etc No, don't put in my mouth words I never said. I never said "diversity has ruined men". There is nothing in what I write that is even close to that. That's even a meaningless sentence for what I am concerned. I also didn't say that men have it worse. They don't. You are the one claming that women have it worse. They don't. Some people have it worse, and they happen to be men and women. Some people have it better, and they also happen to be in both categories. So do people that face discrimination. I am simply refuting is your claim that women are "underpriviledged". That is not true in any measurable way. > If you want to have a men-centric platform I don't. Where did I say that? I only said that you provide narrow, politically-correct categories. The opposite of that is not reversing them and privilege another group. The opposite of that is to give everyone equal treatment, which you don't. > I'll ask, how many women, people of colour, LGBTQ+, people with disabilities and many other groups do you follow? Why should that even matter? Do you want to follow more women? Great, go on. Do you want to make a site for people that want to follow your specifically discriminatory categories? Please, have a go. But don't claim it's something else. The ratio between the men and women I follow on Twitter, for what matters (which is 0) is pretty even. I follow them because they are individuials that have something interesting to say, not because of their gender or their skin color. Why should I follow more (or less) people of color? Do you think they are different from white people? Do they all think the same to justify me following them just based on their skin color? Isn't that racist? LGBTQ+ people and disabled people are a small percentage of the overall population. Why do you think they should have a higher number in the people I follow? And again, do they think differently from people not in those groups? You can discriminate all you want, but you can't seat on the side of the "underrepresented".
  - woah 8y ago
    You are an incredibly whiny person
  - komali2 8y ago
    >You are the one claming that women have it worse. They don't. I don't see anybody arguing this. The most popular Twitter accounts are of white men, so someone built a tool to find the Twitter feeds of not white men. By definition the app is to help find underrepresented people (on Twitter). I'll be honest, your comment comes off as extraordinarily angry for what we're talking about here (someone made an app to help showcase certain minority Twitter accounts). Nobody's suggested the United States Constitution should be rewritten. Nobody's made value statements. So where's all this (I'm seeing) anger coming from?
komali2 8y ago
People are allowed to build communities around minorities. I don't get why there's white male backlash about being "left out" every time this happens. What's the point of quoting male suicide statistics at a person trying to build out access to minority voices? Nobody is challenging men's ability to form their own communities. This is one app, privately developed, with a specific purpose.
dang 8y ago
You made your point already. Turning this into your own gender flamewar is a serious abuse of a Show HN thread. I pointed out elsewhere that you were hounding the submitter in a way that breaks the site guidelines, but going full flamewar breaks the site guidelines for different reasons. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and don't do this on HN again. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18521818 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18521818 and marked it off-topic.

tcodina 8y ago

I'm sorry, I find your comment pretty ridiculous in multiple aspects, and I'm honestly surprised you truly feel this way about the platform. What I understand from it, and the parent comment, is that you're simply stuck in the beliefs of "diversity has ruined men", men have it worse, etc. Unfortunately I might not be able to change your mind, but I hope you understand that the idea of the website was to make groups that were less easy to be found on Twitter (I'll ask, how many women, people of colour, LGBTQ+, people with disabilities and many other groups do you follow? Going to take the risk and say that not as many as men, by a big margin...). If that upsets you that's unfortunate, I am grateful for the people who were happy with the platform and sent me awesome positive comments. If you want to have a men-centric platform, you may make it yourself, go ahead. It's ironic how you seem to be the kind of person who would have benefited from such a website, getting you out of an echo chamber and seeing multiple perspectives.

DeusExMachina 8y ago
> What I understand from it, and the parent comment, is that you're simply stuck in the beliefs of "diversity has ruined men", men have it worse, etc No, don't put in my mouth words I never said. I never said "diversity has ruined men". There is nothing in what I write that is even close to that. That's even a meaningless sentence for what I am concerned. I also didn't say that men have it worse. They don't. You are the one claming that women have it worse. They don't. Some people have it worse, and they happen to be men and women. Some people have it better, and they also happen to be in both categories. So do people that face discrimination. I am simply refuting is your claim that women are "underpriviledged". That is not true in any measurable way. > If you want to have a men-centric platform I don't. Where did I say that? I only said that you provide narrow, politically-correct categories. The opposite of that is not reversing them and privilege another group. The opposite of that is to give everyone equal treatment, which you don't. > I'll ask, how many women, people of colour, LGBTQ+, people with disabilities and many other groups do you follow? Why should that even matter? Do you want to follow more women? Great, go on. Do you want to make a site for people that want to follow your specifically discriminatory categories? Please, have a go. But don't claim it's something else. The ratio between the men and women I follow on Twitter, for what matters (which is 0) is pretty even. I follow them because they are individuials that have something interesting to say, not because of their gender or their skin color. Why should I follow more (or less) people of color? Do you think they are different from white people? Do they all think the same to justify me following them just based on their skin color? Isn't that racist? LGBTQ+ people and disabled people are a small percentage of the overall population. Why do you think they should have a higher number in the people I follow? And again, do they think differently from people not in those groups? You can discriminate all you want, but you can't seat on the side of the "underrepresented".
- woah 8y ago
  You are an incredibly whiny person
- komali2 8y ago
  >You are the one claming that women have it worse. They don't. I don't see anybody arguing this. The most popular Twitter accounts are of white men, so someone built a tool to find the Twitter feeds of not white men. By definition the app is to help find underrepresented people (on Twitter). I'll be honest, your comment comes off as extraordinarily angry for what we're talking about here (someone made an app to help showcase certain minority Twitter accounts). Nobody's suggested the United States Constitution should be rewritten. Nobody's made value statements. So where's all this (I'm seeing) anger coming from?

komali2 8y ago

People are allowed to build communities around minorities. I don't get why there's white male backlash about being "left out" every time this happens. What's the point of quoting male suicide statistics at a person trying to build out access to minority voices? Nobody is challenging men's ability to form their own communities. This is one app, privately developed, with a specific purpose.

dang 8y ago

You made your point already. Turning this into your own gender flamewar is a serious abuse of a Show HN thread. I pointed out elsewhere that you were hounding the submitter in a way that breaks the site guidelines, but going full flamewar breaks the site guidelines for different reasons. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and don't do this on HN again. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18521818 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18521818 and marked it off-topic.