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> trying to prove the opposite with no facts or evidence You're doing exactly the same. You have provided no evidence or facts. > There has been a staggering

by klohto 8y ago

> trying to prove the opposite with no facts or evidence You're doing exactly the same. You have provided no evidence or facts. > There has been a staggering amount of research over the decades on this topic Great, so provide it.

threeseed 8y ago
> https://aicd.companydirectors.com.au/membership/the-boardroom-report/volume-15-issue-3/lets-talk-about-quotas https://aicd.companydirectors.com.au/membership/the-boardroo... Since introduction of quotas, Italy saw women's representation soar from 8% to 32%, France from 21% to 38% and on average the world saw a growth of 5% from 2012 to 2015. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_government#Quotas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_government#Quotas Of the top-ranked 20 countries in terms of female representation in government, 17 of these countries utilize some sort of quota system to ensure female inclusion.
- kjjjzzzz7zg 8y ago
  Obviously, if you implement a quota, the representation will rise. That says nothing about the side effects, or even the motivation of women to aim for higher careers in general. As for the research showing higher profitability for diverse teams: a lot if it is about diversity of thought, not diversity of genders. But even if you take gender into account, you have to also consider economic trends. Businesses that flourish might simply be more able to afford women (who are more costly employees than men, if only because of the sick days and higher likelihood to drop out because of pregnancy). So the correlation would actually be inverse (success would cause more female employees, not the other way round). Or think about oil industry vs tech industry. Fewer women work in mining, but the tech industry was exceptionally successful in recent years. It might just be a random artifact that more women work in tech than in mining, and tech happened to be more successful. If you look at such papers, always pay attention to the interval they use for claiming "more success". If they say "from 2009 to 2016 diverse companies were more successful", bet you ass that if you look at the data from 2000 to 2018, the correlation fades away.
- sheepmullet 8y ago
  > Since introduction of quotas, Italy saw women's representation soar from 8% to 32% And how much of this is because of quotas? Australia (ASX200) went from 8.3% in 2009 to 28.5% in 2018 without a quota system.

by klohto 8y ago

threeseed 8y ago

> https://aicd.companydirectors.com.au/membership/the-boardroom-report/volume-15-issue-3/lets-talk-about-quotas https://aicd.companydirectors.com.au/membership/the-boardroo... Since introduction of quotas, Italy saw women's representation soar from 8% to 32%, France from 21% to 38% and on average the world saw a growth of 5% from 2012 to 2015. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_government#Quotas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_government#Quotas Of the top-ranked 20 countries in terms of female representation in government, 17 of these countries utilize some sort of quota system to ensure female inclusion.

kjjjzzzz7zg 8y ago
Obviously, if you implement a quota, the representation will rise. That says nothing about the side effects, or even the motivation of women to aim for higher careers in general. As for the research showing higher profitability for diverse teams: a lot if it is about diversity of thought, not diversity of genders. But even if you take gender into account, you have to also consider economic trends. Businesses that flourish might simply be more able to afford women (who are more costly employees than men, if only because of the sick days and higher likelihood to drop out because of pregnancy). So the correlation would actually be inverse (success would cause more female employees, not the other way round). Or think about oil industry vs tech industry. Fewer women work in mining, but the tech industry was exceptionally successful in recent years. It might just be a random artifact that more women work in tech than in mining, and tech happened to be more successful. If you look at such papers, always pay attention to the interval they use for claiming "more success". If they say "from 2009 to 2016 diverse companies were more successful", bet you ass that if you look at the data from 2000 to 2018, the correlation fades away.
sheepmullet 8y ago
> Since introduction of quotas, Italy saw women's representation soar from 8% to 32% And how much of this is because of quotas? Australia (ASX200) went from 8.3% in 2009 to 28.5% in 2018 without a quota system.