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> The Argument From Gilligan's Island > A recurring flaw in AI alarmism is that it treats intelligence as a property of individual minds, rather than recognizi
by nopinsight 8y ago
> The Argument From Gilligan's Island
> A recurring flaw in AI alarmism is that it treats intelligence as a property of individual minds, rather than recognizing that this capacity is distributed across our civilization and culture.
This is a stronger argument in the post and we arguably did not know whether it is true when the post was made. AlphaZero destroyed the illusion in 2017. Thousands of years of human Go and Chess knowledge, played and accumulated in communities of many million players, were surpassed within hours of training.
AlphaZero is limited in its domain of application but there is no guarantee that all future AIs would be similarly limited.
> The Argument From Stephen Hawking's Cat ...
> But ultimately, if the cat doesn't want to get in the carrier, there's nothing Hawking can do about it despite his overpowering advantage in intelligence.
> Even if he devoted his career to feline motivation and behavior, rather than theoretical physics, he still couldn't talk the cat into it.
An average human can set up a cat trap, and lure the cat into it. They don’t even need to do it themselves; asking or paying someone else to do it is simple enough.
Humans don’t often fall into a similarly “obvious” trap but we fall for more subtle traps all the time: popularity, money, attraction, etc. A disembodied AI can use social engineering or financial incentives to get other humans to lure their targets into such a trap.
> The Argument From My Roommate...
> It's perfectly possible an AI won't do much of anything, except use its powers of hyperpersuasion to get us to bring it brownies.
Yes, an AI can decide to lie around and just try to get brownies but we know that some kinds of AGI are potentially very powerful for achieving real-world tasks and there are groups who try hard to develop them.
This is like saying an ancient bacteria we found from ten-thousand-year-old ice melted by global warming, or a group of advanced aliens who are arriving in three decades, could be totally harmless; just rest and don’t pay much attention to them.
Most arguments I have read in the post are weak, so I’ll stop here.
- nl 8y agoPeople who believe in superintelligence present an interesting case, because many of them are freakishly smart. They can argue you into the ground. But are their arguments right, or is there just something about very smart minds that leaves them vulnerable to religious conversion about AI risk, and makes them particularly persuasive? Think about this for a bit. Think about your cat argument and then ask why Michael Bloomberg isn’t president.
- nopinsight 8y agoSo when rational arguments fail, it is a good idea to turn to an ad hominem attack instead? Regarding Bloomberg, I do not see why we should compare a human being whose goals are not completely public with a future AGI with non-human morality and methods, and not subject to many tendencies and limitations humans are subject to. Let me ask you (or anyone else, esp those who downvote) a question: What would be a minimum demonstrated capability of an AI that starts to worry you?
- nl 8y agoThe title of the essay is literally Superintelligence The Idea That Eats Smart People I don’t think it’s ad hominem to point that out. What would be a minimum demonstrated capability of an AI that starts to worry you? I think the “AI” part of this is a distraction. I worry about systems that use weapons without human intervention for example. That concern applies no matter what your definition of AI is.
- nopinsight 8y agoWell, the title itself is an ad hominem although most of the arguments therein are not, which implies the author thinks he needs to rely on other grounds to convince people.