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I feel like we need a script to recite when demanding a patdown that explains to all the people around us why the porno machines and the whole process is so obj

I feel like we need a script to recite when demanding a patdown that explains to all the people around us why the porno machines and the whole process is so objectionable. And request to have the patdown out in the open so people can see what you're willing to put up with to avoid going through the scanner.

nodata 16y ago
I thank that would be a good idea. But it needs to be catchy. At least where I am the "naked body scanner" phrase seems to have caught on (or at least be understood).
asmithmd1 16y ago
Potential names for back scatter machine: Strip search Electronic strip search Virtual strip search Anonymous strip search
- mkr-hn 16y ago
  The Vegas Strip
mcargian 16y ago
most frequent flyers (on flyertalk) have been calling it the nude-o-scope
- blahblahblah 16y ago
  nude-o-scope just sounds too benign. We refer to the artistic, tasteful depictions of unclothed people in fine art as "nudes". The images captured by back-scatter x-ray bear no resemblance to the tasteful renderings of Titian, Michelangelo, Gaugin, etc. An appropriate nickname for the machine should be derogatory and characterize both the tasteless nature of the images produced and the abusive, exploitative process by which they are acquired. Personally, I think it should be referred to as the Porn-o-Tron machine.
  - mortenjorck 16y ago
    People at my office seem to have standardized on "the naked machine," which I think sounds appropriately menacing, yet pleasantly colloquial. It's just diplomatically neutral enough that I think I may use it in line next time I opt out of one.
- jrockway 16y ago
  Maybe we should call it the Digital Rape Machine so that anti-Digital-Restrictions-Management stickers can advocate two causes at once.
- tptacek 16y ago
  Why not just call it what it is? It's a strip search.
  - pak 16y ago
    With a digital camera. In 3D!
  - pbhjpbhj 16y ago
    >Why not just call it what it is? It's a strip search. Personally if they really want to see me naked they can. It's just a hunk of meat. But you're lying, it's not a strip search unless you take off your clothes, ie "strip". It's a scan of your body. You're perfectly right to object if you don't like it but it's silly to lie about it IMO.
blahedo 16y ago
"I'd prefer the pat-down to the strip search, please." If challenged on the term strip search, as seems semi-likely: "It records a picture of my naked body, and sends it to a screen for someone to look at, right?" Then, regardless whether the responds is "yes", "no", "yes, but...", silence, whatever, follow up with just: "Pat-down, please."
- jambo 16y ago
  The problem with this is that you're asking for the pat-down. If that's required to fly if I opt-out of the strip search, let them say so. "I opt out of the electronic strip search {.|because} {I believe in human dignity|it's silly|I am worried about potential health risks|of Rolando Negrin|...}"
jdp23 16y ago
This is a great idea -- I'll send it to some privacy organizations and see what they think ...

nodata 16y ago

I thank that would be a good idea. But it needs to be catchy. At least where I am the "naked body scanner" phrase seems to have caught on (or at least be understood).

asmithmd1 16y ago

Potential names for back scatter machine: Strip search Electronic strip search Virtual strip search Anonymous strip search

mkr-hn 16y ago
The Vegas Strip

mcargian 16y ago

most frequent flyers (on flyertalk) have been calling it the nude-o-scope

blahblahblah 16y ago
nude-o-scope just sounds too benign. We refer to the artistic, tasteful depictions of unclothed people in fine art as "nudes". The images captured by back-scatter x-ray bear no resemblance to the tasteful renderings of Titian, Michelangelo, Gaugin, etc. An appropriate nickname for the machine should be derogatory and characterize both the tasteless nature of the images produced and the abusive, exploitative process by which they are acquired. Personally, I think it should be referred to as the Porn-o-Tron machine.
- mortenjorck 16y ago
  People at my office seem to have standardized on "the naked machine," which I think sounds appropriately menacing, yet pleasantly colloquial. It's just diplomatically neutral enough that I think I may use it in line next time I opt out of one.
jrockway 16y ago
Maybe we should call it the Digital Rape Machine so that anti-Digital-Restrictions-Management stickers can advocate two causes at once.
tptacek 16y ago
Why not just call it what it is? It's a strip search.
- pak 16y ago
  With a digital camera. In 3D!
- pbhjpbhj 16y ago
  >Why not just call it what it is? It's a strip search. Personally if they really want to see me naked they can. It's just a hunk of meat. But you're lying, it's not a strip search unless you take off your clothes, ie "strip". It's a scan of your body. You're perfectly right to object if you don't like it but it's silly to lie about it IMO.

blahedo 16y ago

"I'd prefer the pat-down to the strip search, please." If challenged on the term strip search, as seems semi-likely: "It records a picture of my naked body, and sends it to a screen for someone to look at, right?" Then, regardless whether the responds is "yes", "no", "yes, but...", silence, whatever, follow up with just: "Pat-down, please."

jambo 16y ago
The problem with this is that you're asking for the pat-down. If that's required to fly if I opt-out of the strip search, let them say so. "I opt out of the electronic strip search {.|because} {I believe in human dignity|it's silly|I am worried about potential health risks|of Rolando Negrin|...}"

jdp23 16y ago

This is a great idea -- I'll send it to some privacy organizations and see what they think ...