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Give China another 20 years and they will surely have overtaken the USA in world leadership. Consider their new Silk Road initiative. 3rd world/developing cou

Give China another 20 years and they will surely have overtaken the USA in world leadership. Consider their new Silk Road initiative. 3rd world/developing countries and America's numerous enemies alike are lining up to ally themselves with China. Meanwhile the USA shits on its closest allies.

axaxs 8y ago
People have been saying this for 40ish years, if not more, and it's never been close to happening and still isn't. China's relationships with developing nations tend to be predatory/parasitic, not an alliance.
- statguy 8y ago
  At least those relationships don't involve carpet bombing rich and thriving places back in to the stone age.
  - dikei 8y ago
    Not yet. As the last country to go to war with China, we know full well that they won't hesitate bombing former allies should the circumstance calls for it.
    - statguy 8y ago
      Let's reserve judgement until China actually orchestrates a Fallujah scale bombing.
thanosnose 8y ago
> Give China another 20 years and they will surely have overtaken the USA in world leadership. I guess anything is possible but I highly doubt it. Do you really think culturally, linguistically, militarily, politically and even economically china is going to lead the world? Every major international instution in the world from the UN to the ICJ to the WTO is in western nations. > Consider their new Silk Road initiative. 3rd world/developing countries and America's numerous enemies alike are lining up to ally themselves with China. Sure. But they are also working to contain china as well. You really don't understand politics in a local or a global setting if you think china is going to be leading in asia, let alone the world. If you think the likes of india, japan, korea, vietnam or even iran will let china lead, then you don't understand geopolitics. And lets not forget russia with their thousands of nukes along china's border. The day that the US doesn't control the world is the day regional competition and violence begins as 2nd rate powers vie with each other for influence within their regions. Nobody, especially china, is going to replace the US as the leader of the world. Once we are done, it'll be back to regional power plays.
bassman9000 8y ago
Where will they get the IP from?
aeriklawson 8y ago
Not going to happen. Maybe after half a century or more (I'd bet close to one hundred) assuming everything goes perfectly, but not even close in twenty - at most they'll be a very strong regional power and their sphere of influence will push the US further out of SEA (which is still heavily favoring the US as of today). China's economy will probably be the most powerful in the next twenty years, but that's not nearly enough. People vastly underestimate how interconnected and influential the US is economically and militarily - the idea that the US will not be the world's dominant superpower for the next fifty years is click bait in the era of Trump. We're also quickly increasing the number of unknown variables as the years go by - no one knows how or when the next financial crisis will play out in China, or the volatility of their governmental system - countries often do well until one day they don't. The same could be said about the US, but the country has proven itself to be incredibly stable thus far. > 3rd world/developing countries and America's numerous enemies alike are lining up to ally themselves with China As you mentioned, 3rd world - they are playing the long game, certainly longer than twenty years. The payoffs they are hoping for are fifty to one hundred years away (in Africa, etc.)

axaxs 8y ago

People have been saying this for 40ish years, if not more, and it's never been close to happening and still isn't. China's relationships with developing nations tend to be predatory/parasitic, not an alliance.

statguy 8y ago
At least those relationships don't involve carpet bombing rich and thriving places back in to the stone age.
- dikei 8y ago
  Not yet. As the last country to go to war with China, we know full well that they won't hesitate bombing former allies should the circumstance calls for it.
  - statguy 8y ago
    Let's reserve judgement until China actually orchestrates a Fallujah scale bombing.

thanosnose 8y ago

> Give China another 20 years and they will surely have overtaken the USA in world leadership. I guess anything is possible but I highly doubt it. Do you really think culturally, linguistically, militarily, politically and even economically china is going to lead the world? Every major international instution in the world from the UN to the ICJ to the WTO is in western nations. > Consider their new Silk Road initiative. 3rd world/developing countries and America's numerous enemies alike are lining up to ally themselves with China. Sure. But they are also working to contain china as well. You really don't understand politics in a local or a global setting if you think china is going to be leading in asia, let alone the world. If you think the likes of india, japan, korea, vietnam or even iran will let china lead, then you don't understand geopolitics. And lets not forget russia with their thousands of nukes along china's border. The day that the US doesn't control the world is the day regional competition and violence begins as 2nd rate powers vie with each other for influence within their regions. Nobody, especially china, is going to replace the US as the leader of the world. Once we are done, it'll be back to regional power plays.

bassman9000 8y ago

Where will they get the IP from?

aeriklawson 8y ago

Not going to happen. Maybe after half a century or more (I'd bet close to one hundred) assuming everything goes perfectly, but not even close in twenty - at most they'll be a very strong regional power and their sphere of influence will push the US further out of SEA (which is still heavily favoring the US as of today). China's economy will probably be the most powerful in the next twenty years, but that's not nearly enough. People vastly underestimate how interconnected and influential the US is economically and militarily - the idea that the US will not be the world's dominant superpower for the next fifty years is click bait in the era of Trump. We're also quickly increasing the number of unknown variables as the years go by - no one knows how or when the next financial crisis will play out in China, or the volatility of their governmental system - countries often do well until one day they don't. The same could be said about the US, but the country has proven itself to be incredibly stable thus far. > 3rd world/developing countries and America's numerous enemies alike are lining up to ally themselves with China As you mentioned, 3rd world - they are playing the long game, certainly longer than twenty years. The payoffs they are hoping for are fifty to one hundred years away (in Africa, etc.)