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Not leaving office != not sleeping

by rock_hard 8y ago

isoskeles 8y ago
Can we at least agree it means not changing your underwear?
dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
Even then it's a kind of perverse modern slavery.
- mulmen 8y ago
  It is in no way slavery. Making that connection just undermines legitimate criticism of modern corporate workloads.
- kinkrtyavimoodh 8y ago
  Please don't trivialize the horrors of actual slavery by throwing around the term for 6-digit-salaried folks hustling for something they enjoy doing.
  - barrow-rider 8y ago
    Indeed, world's smallest violin, definitely not slavery. Like, I don't know if they enjoy doing it, but if they're getting FAANG salaries and the name recognition that comes with working in such places then they likely have options, and can easily find a less insane gig if/when that's too much for them.
  - krageon 8y ago
    You're right, it's more like the formation of a cult. The money presented to them really doesn't matter very much, what we should consider is the mindset this sort of thing creates and whether or not it is a good thing to have it spreading to the rest of society. There's a real societal impact to having large companies getting more and more powerful and their employees being fanatically devoted to it's well-being.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
    I was baffled at first by this comment, but then I realized it's the recent tend in the USA to somehow make up for the mistakes of the past, hence the attempts to erase words like "master/slave" that are perceived as sad reminders of unfortunately not-so-distant past. In Europe, we don't see this way as we don't have this particular trauma. We did have different forms of slavery centuries ago, but it was newer a thing in mainland Europe (although the feudal system was close to it). So this word is not that emotionally marked for us. It's quite normal to say that someone is a slave to something (fashion, fear, alcohol). Some people even use it in a positive way, e.g. a slave to God. All these figurative uses are quite common and are not intended to trivialize the original meaning.

Not leaving office != not sleeping

isoskeles 8y ago

Can we at least agree it means not changing your underwear?

dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago

Even then it's a kind of perverse modern slavery.

mulmen 8y ago
It is in no way slavery. Making that connection just undermines legitimate criticism of modern corporate workloads.
kinkrtyavimoodh 8y ago
Please don't trivialize the horrors of actual slavery by throwing around the term for 6-digit-salaried folks hustling for something they enjoy doing.
- barrow-rider 8y ago
  Indeed, world's smallest violin, definitely not slavery. Like, I don't know if they enjoy doing it, but if they're getting FAANG salaries and the name recognition that comes with working in such places then they likely have options, and can easily find a less insane gig if/when that's too much for them.
- krageon 8y ago
  You're right, it's more like the formation of a cult. The money presented to them really doesn't matter very much, what we should consider is the mindset this sort of thing creates and whether or not it is a good thing to have it spreading to the rest of society. There's a real societal impact to having large companies getting more and more powerful and their employees being fanatically devoted to it's well-being.
- dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
  I was baffled at first by this comment, but then I realized it's the recent tend in the USA to somehow make up for the mistakes of the past, hence the attempts to erase words like "master/slave" that are perceived as sad reminders of unfortunately not-so-distant past. In Europe, we don't see this way as we don't have this particular trauma. We did have different forms of slavery centuries ago, but it was newer a thing in mainland Europe (although the feudal system was close to it). So this word is not that emotionally marked for us. It's quite normal to say that someone is a slave to something (fashion, fear, alcohol). Some people even use it in a positive way, e.g. a slave to God. All these figurative uses are quite common and are not intended to trivialize the original meaning.