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I'm wondering if this is to head off Trump allowing Fethullah Gulen from being extradited.. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/if-trump-sacrifices-fethullah

I'm wondering if this is to head off Trump allowing Fethullah Gulen from being extradited.. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/if-trump-sacrifices-fethullah-gulen-protect-saudi-arabia-he-will-ncna937281 https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/if-trump-sacrifices-fe... Erdoğan wants him, but in return for what? Maybe preventing the audio of the killing ending up on YouTube (or otherwise made public). If the CIA is saying MBS ordered the killing, the effect is maybe the same. Also: why does the CIA care what happens to Gulen?

tehwebguy 8y ago
Wait so we might keep Gulen, infuriate Erdoğan and get the audio publicly released? Talk about win-win-win!
- thaumasiotes 8y ago
  How is keeping Gulen a win?
ben_jones 8y ago
As if Google wouldn't take down the video immediately
onetimemanytime 8y ago
Doesn't Gulen have a right to challenge this in US Courts? Any lawyers here...does he have a chance in courts? The process in Turkey surely seems political.
- mengibar10 8y ago
  According to mutual agreement between Turkey and US, US is actually obliged to return him Turkey. As far as I understand from what I read Erdogan does not want him back to Turkey but extradited to a 3rd country, not sure why. Probably he won't be able to run his network as efficiently as he can from say South Africa.
  - onetimemanytime 8y ago
    Strange, if true. AFAIK, all agreements are subject to federal court review, he has right since he's in USA /has Green card. If all fails, he has the right to ask for political asylum. A judge would grant him one in light of what's going on in Turkey with tens of thousands rounded up overnight and jailed. Will he get a fair trial in Turkey? We pretty much know the answer
  - nradov 8y ago
    Which agreement?
  - PeterMikhailov 8y ago
    Not sure where you're getting that... Erdogan has been demanding that Gulen be extradited directly to Turkey since at least 2016, and I'm sure earlier.

tehwebguy 8y ago

Wait so we might keep Gulen, infuriate Erdoğan and get the audio publicly released? Talk about win-win-win!

thaumasiotes 8y ago
How is keeping Gulen a win?

ben_jones 8y ago

As if Google wouldn't take down the video immediately

onetimemanytime 8y ago

Doesn't Gulen have a right to challenge this in US Courts? Any lawyers here...does he have a chance in courts? The process in Turkey surely seems political.

mengibar10 8y ago
According to mutual agreement between Turkey and US, US is actually obliged to return him Turkey. As far as I understand from what I read Erdogan does not want him back to Turkey but extradited to a 3rd country, not sure why. Probably he won't be able to run his network as efficiently as he can from say South Africa.
- onetimemanytime 8y ago
  Strange, if true. AFAIK, all agreements are subject to federal court review, he has right since he's in USA /has Green card. If all fails, he has the right to ask for political asylum. A judge would grant him one in light of what's going on in Turkey with tens of thousands rounded up overnight and jailed. Will he get a fair trial in Turkey? We pretty much know the answer
- nradov 8y ago
  Which agreement?
- PeterMikhailov 8y ago
  Not sure where you're getting that... Erdogan has been demanding that Gulen be extradited directly to Turkey since at least 2016, and I'm sure earlier.