4 ms·

Isnt it a little hypocritical for you to say this? I went through your profile and saw that you were involved with Contactive (https://news.ycombinator.com/item

Isnt it a little hypocritical for you to say this? I went through your profile and saw that you were involved with Contactive (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8096597 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8096597) which doesnt exist anymore. I'm assuming that doesnt exist today because of very good reasons. Same for other companies as well.

whoisjuan 8y ago
Yes, I'm a hypocrite for having worked for a company that failed to find product-market fit and having the nerve to give an opinion about why I believe a company like Google should be more consistent with their product offering and the long-term vision of their ventures. Thanks for pointing out my hypocrisy and why I don't have the right to have an opinion about anything anymore. I also checked your profile and you're pretty good at defending everything Google does, but I don't judge you for having those opinions, nor I think you're a hypocrite for thinking in a certain way.
- bitpush 8y ago
  For the record, I upvoted you and I think its important everybody should read what you wrote. As you mentioned, companies need to be consistent with their product offering just like how we expect people we interact with online to be consistent as well. If I criticize Company A for doing something, and goes around and does the same thing then it'll be very hypocritical of me. The product-market fit you mentioned doesnt just happen for startup, but for big companies as well. A dollar is a dollar everywhere you go. Just like you found it was OK for your company to sunset a certain product, big companies also decide to do that. Also, please dont put words into my mouth. I didnt say you dont have a right to say things. You do. But when you do, and please be open to replies.
  - whoisjuan 8y ago
    Yes. Sorry for the angry response. I'm totally open to replies and debate. I just wanted to emphasize that I was merely giving an opinion and that I didn't think it was fair to characterize my comments as hypocritical. Companies have the right to sunset products if they're not profitable. Of course, they do. I think the problem is that in general people have high expectations from companies like Google, Amazon, and Microsoft. I certainly do, and that's why I think Google should be more committed to a long-term vision in their Cloud business.

whoisjuan 8y ago

Yes, I'm a hypocrite for having worked for a company that failed to find product-market fit and having the nerve to give an opinion about why I believe a company like Google should be more consistent with their product offering and the long-term vision of their ventures. Thanks for pointing out my hypocrisy and why I don't have the right to have an opinion about anything anymore. I also checked your profile and you're pretty good at defending everything Google does, but I don't judge you for having those opinions, nor I think you're a hypocrite for thinking in a certain way.

bitpush 8y ago
For the record, I upvoted you and I think its important everybody should read what you wrote. As you mentioned, companies need to be consistent with their product offering just like how we expect people we interact with online to be consistent as well. If I criticize Company A for doing something, and goes around and does the same thing then it'll be very hypocritical of me. The product-market fit you mentioned doesnt just happen for startup, but for big companies as well. A dollar is a dollar everywhere you go. Just like you found it was OK for your company to sunset a certain product, big companies also decide to do that. Also, please dont put words into my mouth. I didnt say you dont have a right to say things. You do. But when you do, and please be open to replies.
- whoisjuan 8y ago
  Yes. Sorry for the angry response. I'm totally open to replies and debate. I just wanted to emphasize that I was merely giving an opinion and that I didn't think it was fair to characterize my comments as hypocritical. Companies have the right to sunset products if they're not profitable. Of course, they do. I think the problem is that in general people have high expectations from companies like Google, Amazon, and Microsoft. I certainly do, and that's why I think Google should be more committed to a long-term vision in their Cloud business.