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Anyone remembers just 5 years ago, Microsoft had a huge campaign about how everyone got "scroogled" by Google? Especially this ad about Google reading your mail

Anyone remembers just 5 years ago, Microsoft had a huge campaign about how everyone got "scroogled" by Google? Especially this ad about Google reading your mail to devliver you ads? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI1ominSL_c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI1ominSL_c Oh, how the time has changed!

jahabrewer 8y ago
To be fair, from the article: > although these ads are interest-based, they do not look at your emails to display ads based on data from your email.
- yebyen 8y ago
  Well, everyone thank Satya Nadella, it's a miracle we were able to draw the line somewhere! /s I'm sorry, this snark is not really directed at you, but how exactly are they determining your interests if they're not reading your e-mails? Where does that data come from? I'd be happy to take back my /s if someone can tell me it was all voluntarily collected, but I suspect the answer is really "they just found a different way to spy on you other than reading your email."
  - basil-rash 8y ago
    There are plenty of ways to spy besides email... Bing searches, for instance. I believe anything you type into the start menu is sent to Bing by default, so that could be more data than you think. I personally use Bing, but not Windows. Looking on my interests page for Bing, I see they have a decent chunk of info on me, nothing too crazy personal though.
EduardoBautista 8y ago
There is still no evidence that they are reading your emails so it's not the same. I am fine with ads, just as long as they don't mine my data and follow me around.
- Havoc 8y ago
  >I am fine with ads, just as long as they don't mine my data and follow me around. Pretty much every ad platform out there does exactly that
  - EduardoBautista 8y ago
    Duckduckgo does not. Hacker News does not. There are many examples. Ads on blogs such as Daring Fireball and Coding Horror do not. I gladly whitelist these sites.
    - DoctorOW 8y ago
      Do Hacker News and Daring Fireball have ad platforms?
      - jonhohle 8y ago
        Until march of last year Daring Fireball had The Deck[0]. Now it's just weekly sponsors, AFAIK. 0 - https://daringfireball.net/2017/03/the_deck_adieu https://daringfireball.net/2017/03/the_deck_adieu
      - Silfen 8y ago
        HN has in-feed ads for Y Combinator businesses. A great example of benevolent, win-win advertising, in my opinion.
    - Havoc 8y ago
      Sure there are fringe cases where it's not true. In substance ad platforms are now tracking & targeting mechanisms. That's the "value" they sell, not their ability to deliver ads.
- CyberDildonics 8y ago
  Really? You can do the experiment yourself by sending certain emails and eventually getting ads target off what words were in them. I don't think this was controversial.

jahabrewer 8y ago

To be fair, from the article: > although these ads are interest-based, they do not look at your emails to display ads based on data from your email.

yebyen 8y ago
Well, everyone thank Satya Nadella, it's a miracle we were able to draw the line somewhere! /s I'm sorry, this snark is not really directed at you, but how exactly are they determining your interests if they're not reading your e-mails? Where does that data come from? I'd be happy to take back my /s if someone can tell me it was all voluntarily collected, but I suspect the answer is really "they just found a different way to spy on you other than reading your email."
- basil-rash 8y ago
  There are plenty of ways to spy besides email... Bing searches, for instance. I believe anything you type into the start menu is sent to Bing by default, so that could be more data than you think. I personally use Bing, but not Windows. Looking on my interests page for Bing, I see they have a decent chunk of info on me, nothing too crazy personal though.

EduardoBautista 8y ago

There is still no evidence that they are reading your emails so it's not the same. I am fine with ads, just as long as they don't mine my data and follow me around.

Havoc 8y ago
>I am fine with ads, just as long as they don't mine my data and follow me around. Pretty much every ad platform out there does exactly that
- EduardoBautista 8y ago
  Duckduckgo does not. Hacker News does not. There are many examples. Ads on blogs such as Daring Fireball and Coding Horror do not. I gladly whitelist these sites.
  - DoctorOW 8y ago
    Do Hacker News and Daring Fireball have ad platforms?
    - jonhohle 8y ago
      Until march of last year Daring Fireball had The Deck[0]. Now it's just weekly sponsors, AFAIK. 0 - https://daringfireball.net/2017/03/the_deck_adieu https://daringfireball.net/2017/03/the_deck_adieu
    - Silfen 8y ago
      HN has in-feed ads for Y Combinator businesses. A great example of benevolent, win-win advertising, in my opinion.
  - Havoc 8y ago
    Sure there are fringe cases where it's not true. In substance ad platforms are now tracking & targeting mechanisms. That's the "value" they sell, not their ability to deliver ads.
CyberDildonics 8y ago
Really? You can do the experiment yourself by sending certain emails and eventually getting ads target off what words were in them. I don't think this was controversial.