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Admittedly this is aggregate for the whole state: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oklahoma https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oklahoma Overall
by Twirrim 8y ago
Admittedly this is aggregate for the whole state:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oklahoma https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oklahoma
Overall Rank Out of 50: #43
Health Care #48
Education #39
Economy #36
Opportunity #38
Infrastructure #31
Crime & Corrections #34
Fiscal Stability #22
Quality of Life #17
Those aren't great incentives for people with families to want to move. Might be more tolerable for younger folks?
Of course, getting fresh tax revenue etc may be important towards getting those various things improved, and Tulsa might be significantly better than the rest of the state.
- legohead 8y agoMoved from Oklahoma City to California. Never going back. If you're religious, right-wing, and don't care about having outing options, then Oklahoma is the place for you.
- walrus01 8y agoI guarantee that if I spent more than one week in Oklahoma or Kansas, I would get into a terrible political argument with the locals. I can only bite my tongue for so long.
- zumu 8y agoKansas is surprisingly much cooler than Oklahoma
- madengr 8y agoI’m in Kansas. Let’s argue.
- rfrey 8y agoYes, I’ve heard they’re prone to gross generalizations out there, and that’s pretty intolerable.
- walrus01 8y agoNote that I didn't say what my politics are, you're making a big assumption there.
- therealmocker 8y agoThings can change: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/10/opinion/kansas-laura-kelly-democrats-governor.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/10/opinion/kansas-laura-kell...
- almost_usual 8y agoI'm guessing you've never driven through California. https://sports.yahoo.com/barbershop-owner-apologizes-says-no-idea-offensive-hang-colin-kaepernick-doll-noose-180134702.html https://sports.yahoo.com/barbershop-owner-apologizes-says-no... California is a lot more Red than you think.. I've seen tons of Confederate flags here (which doesn't even make sense).
- ummonk 8y agoI've never seen a Confederate flag in California, and haven't really encountered any noticeable prejudice from small town / rural Californians in my travails through Northern California. Nothing like Oklahoma.
- almost_usual 8y agoAre you in an interracial relationship? I grew up in a small town in Illinois so I know what rural towns are like. I've definitely walked into bars and restaurants in rural Northern California and have had the entire place stare at us while we got seated. Felt exactly like rural Illinois. I have family members who are openly gay and I know places in Northern California I would _never_ take them. I also know of areas around the North along the coast where you can end up in a fist fight if you're an outsider especially from the Bay Area. That's less a red vs blue thing and more of a "I don't want outsiders in my town" vibe. If you go where the tourists aren't going you'll encounter some interesting things.
- ummonk 8y agoNo, I'm not in an interracial relationship and not gay either. I do look Muslim though. I'm sure there are places like this in NorCal, as you attest, and I haven't encountered them because I go mostly to the places where tourists go (while I tend to avoid the most popular tourist destinations in the state, my travels have still been for camping purposes, which means the places I go to are not strangers to outsiders). But the mere fact that I can live and travel in the state without encountering this kind of stuff is precisely the point. In Oklahoma, there is prejudice anywhere you go, even the towns and cities. (In fact, the main group of people in Oklahoma whom I remember being inclusive towards me were actually rural / very-small-town farmers)
- virmundi 8y agoI ask this out of genuine curiosity since I can't pick a definitive meaning: outing options? Is that ability to go somewhere or the ability to be publicly gay? My confusion is the first two adjectives tend to imply not pro-gay.
- james33 8y agoAnd when did you make this move? OKC has been undergoing a renascence of sorts over the last decade and barely resembles the rest of the state. The tech scene is really taking off and diversity is expanding rather rapidly. There are a lot of great people working hard to make a difference here and just because you like one place over another doesn't mean that other place has to be bad, it is fine to just be different.
- davidw 8y agoStatewide aggregates are not always super useful. Portland, Oregon is really different from Burns, Oregon, for instance.
- seanmcdirmid 8y agoThe Portland area would dominate the aggregate because they have 80-90% of the population. I mean, how many in tech are going to move to Pendleton anyways? I’ve heard Bend is kind of hot these days, but went through during a forest fire and wasn’t impressed. Oklahoma is a bit more balanced on population than Oregon.
- TylerE 8y agoOnly a little more than half. Portland metro is 2.4M, state is 4.15M.
- seanmcdirmid 8y agoIt really depends on what you call the Portland area I guess. See https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/7nz9fq/a_population_density_map_of_oregon_700_x_400/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/7nz9fq/a_populatio... I bet your number includes a few people in Washington if it’s the official Portland metro area one.
- TylerE 8y agoI'm going by the census definition of the Portland MSA.
- seanmcdirmid 8y agoRight, then it’s less than 2 million with the remainder in WA.
- davidw 8y agoI work remotely, in Bend, and am quite happy with it. It's dry enough to be habitable, which the western half of the state where I grew up is, sadly, not. Lots of great outdoor stuff.
- romed 8y agoYou left off teen fertility rate.
- damon_c 8y agoYou'd think "Quality of Life" would have a little more weight... I mean... what else is there?!
- damon_c 8y agoWhoa. The #1 state in this report is Iowa. Hmm. Maybe time to... check out Iowa.
- SamReidHughes 8y agoSurely using some index devised by soulless accountants that never heard of snow.
- dcow 8y agoDon’t knock it till you try it.
- passiveincomelg 8y agoBut stay away from the yellow variant.
- war1025 8y agoIowa is a good place. Thriving tech scene too in the Des Moines metro. Gets cold in the winter, but not that cold. Edit: Also great public school systems and pretty low cost of living.
- ezzaf 8y agoHealthcare? You could plausibly have great quality of life for healthy people, but once you get sick you lose access to it. If you're dead, you probably don't notice the quality of life living people have.
- nwatson 8y agoBut where are they ranked in BBQ? I moved to North Carolina from SF Bay Area and NC has much going for it ... but North Carolinians think NC BBQ is like top-3 (Lexington style, Eastern style, etc.) -- but I don't see it. I much prefer Louisiana or Texas BBQ. I'll say other aspects balance out the mediocre NC BBQ. If Oklahoma / Tulsa BBQ is in the top-3 that might make up for a few of the deficits.
- rjdagost 8y agoIn Tulsa, barbecue bologna is a local specialty. It's delicious and definitely worth trying it if you're in the area.
- ezzaf 8y agoAccording to trip advisor they're not in the top 10. http://ir.tripadvisor.com/news-releases/news-release-details/tripadvisor-serves-americas-top-states-and-joints-bbq http://ir.tripadvisor.com/news-releases/news-release-details... So if BBQ is your criteria, consider Tennessee?
- pbnjay 8y agoI find Lexington style pretty good, it's pretty similar to Kansas City/Memphis/St Louis at least. I can't stand Eastern style though. Texas BBQ is a league of it's own for me, I try not to compare to it cause I always end up disappointed. source: I'm from Kansas City, went to school in Tennessee and Texas, now living in NC.
- skrebbel 8y agoI don't understand, isn't a BBQ a device you put in your garden? How can it differ per state? (not sarcastic, I'm just a clueless foreigner)
- jdhn 8y agoYou're thinking of a grill, which is used to make the BBQ. As for how it differs from state, I think it's the recipes for the BBQ that differ (some places use vinegar, others use ketchup).