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It doesn't sound that plausible that we can account for all the various things that can happen to a plane in something as complex as the earths atmosphere with

It doesn't sound that plausible that we can account for all the various things that can happen to a plane in something as complex as the earths atmosphere with a "simple state machine" . Weather can do really wacky things.

StreamBright 8y ago
You are saying that it is impossible to implement auto-pilot? How does human pilot fly something planes? You think that human mind can deal with infinite states?
- nradov 8y ago
  Yes the human mind can deal with an effectively infinite number of states (and let's not get into a pointless pedantic discussion about the true meaning of "infinite"). Until we figure out how to build a true AGI then no autopilot will be able to do that.
  - StreamBright 8y ago
    No it can't. Flying an airplane on Earth is a very limited exercise in every possible dimension and it can be easily automated without AGIs.
    - nradov 8y ago
      You're simply wrong and have no idea how flight control actually works. In particular failure modes aren't simple at all; real machines can break in a huge number of ways and no one could possibly predict them all. Recommend you take some actual graduate level aeronautical engineering courses and then reconsider the issue.
      - StreamBright 8y ago
        I am not arguing about how machines can fail, I am arguing for that computers can do things that humans can. Usually with higher precision and much more reliable.
        nradov 8y ago
        Machines can do some things with higher precision and reliability than humans. Coping with unexpected aircraft failures aren't currently among those things.
- Scramblejams 8y ago
  noselasd ain't wrong. Autopilots can and do disconnect when the weather conditions exceed their ability. Happens all the time, though probably not often in large airliners because the big carriers have people dedicated to watching the weather and keeping their pilots out of trouble. Your state machine will have to do that, too.

StreamBright 8y ago

You are saying that it is impossible to implement auto-pilot? How does human pilot fly something planes? You think that human mind can deal with infinite states?

nradov 8y ago
Yes the human mind can deal with an effectively infinite number of states (and let's not get into a pointless pedantic discussion about the true meaning of "infinite"). Until we figure out how to build a true AGI then no autopilot will be able to do that.
- StreamBright 8y ago
  No it can't. Flying an airplane on Earth is a very limited exercise in every possible dimension and it can be easily automated without AGIs.
  - nradov 8y ago
    You're simply wrong and have no idea how flight control actually works. In particular failure modes aren't simple at all; real machines can break in a huge number of ways and no one could possibly predict them all. Recommend you take some actual graduate level aeronautical engineering courses and then reconsider the issue.
    - StreamBright 8y ago
      I am not arguing about how machines can fail, I am arguing for that computers can do things that humans can. Usually with higher precision and much more reliable.
      - nradov 8y ago
        Machines can do some things with higher precision and reliability than humans. Coping with unexpected aircraft failures aren't currently among those things.
Scramblejams 8y ago
noselasd ain't wrong. Autopilots can and do disconnect when the weather conditions exceed their ability. Happens all the time, though probably not often in large airliners because the big carriers have people dedicated to watching the weather and keeping their pilots out of trouble. Your state machine will have to do that, too.