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I wonder what they got it for? if just for more IPs for AWS stuff, or if it's for something like IoT stuff?
by akulbe 8y ago
I wonder what they got it for? if just for more IPs for AWS stuff, or if it's for something like IoT stuff?
- akulbe 8y agoAlways love getting downvoted for asking a legitimate question. Nice.
- mturmon 8y agoCorrect strategy in the case of early down votes that you think are incorrect is (1) review what you wrote to see if its tone was flame-bait; (2) wait it out quietly until votes equilibrate. Usually something reasonable comes out over time.
- pbhjpbhj 8y agoMeh, HN seems to hate questions when they think the questioner isn't genuine: Basically if they wish the answer weren't true. That's been my recent experience anyway. Better suggestion - stop politicking and answer the question or move on. Sure if the question is badly made then downvote it. Whilst downvote for disagreement is encouraged here (by the site owners) you can't "disagree" with a question, that's nonsensical.
- dijit 8y agoI make a habit of commenting if I downvote, sure, the commenter might not like what I have to say but I feel I owe it to them to be as honest about why I felt they weren't contributing to the discussion. To answer your question: "how can you disagree with a question"; well, you can downvote a question that is loaded (with some kind of ignorant agenda) or a question that is so blisteringly ignorant by itself that it is plain and obvious that the commenter didn't read the article posted, even a skim-read.
- rdiddly 8y agoDownvoting for disagreement is encouraged? That's news to me! Not welcome news either, because I like the idea that the "quality" of the comment matters more.
- pdpi 8y agoPersonally, while I don't downvote for disagreement, I definitely will downvote (what I perceive as) disingenuous questions — There's more productive ways to express an opinion.
- icebraining 8y agopg (the site's creator) once wrote that it's ok[1], and the current mods have cited that post recently[2], indicating it's still the policy. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17996858 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17996858
- wheelie_boy 8y agoYeah, that seems like a better strategy than a salty comment, which almost always just gets downvoted too.
- sdegutis 8y agoDownvotes just happen on HN, no need to let it upset you. I have a theory that some anarchists have bots running that just downvote new comments in an arbitrary pattern. You know, to keep things perfectly balanced, as all things should be. Similarly I wrote a Chrome extension that may or may not hide the top comment on any given HN post. Keeps you on your toes. https://github.com/sdegutis/PerfectlyBalancedHN https://github.com/sdegutis/PerfectlyBalancedHN
- dsfyu404ed 8y agoI actually wrote a script to track this and it's been running for a few months. I generally post around 9am and 12pm US east coast time. When I take a substantial negative hit it's around noon or 3pm on the East coast. There's a baseline amount of up-votes and down-votes (with up-votes dominating) that seems to roughly correlate with the hours most people are awake in the US and Europe. Someday I'm going to publish a write-up here.
- sdegutis 8y agoWhat's the conclusion? Seems to me like it could be that it's near the end of the work day for most casual HN readers and they're cranky (low blood sugar from a standard American diet) so they downvote whatever they see?
- icedchai 8y agoProbably because the answer is obvious: AWS. Just do a "whois" on 3.0.0.0 and you'll see the contacts are for AWS EC2.
- gsich 8y agoTruth hurts, that's why you get downvoted.
- peeters 8y agoI'm not sure IoT is the best use of a contiguous IPv4 range... you're talking about less than 17 million addresses. Depending on how much it actually cost I feel like it could be a number of things from simple branding to nefarious traffic shaping. If you're an AWS shop maybe they want you to be able to set simple bypass/static route for 3.0.0.0/8.
- bradgnar 8y agoyou could make 17 million networks with it, entry point into aws vpcs has to be somewhere
- bklyn11201 8y agoAt $18 per IP: 2^24 * $18 = $302mm At $14 per IP: 2^24 * $14 = $235mm Price per IP estimated from: https://www.ipv4auctions.com/ In 2011, Microsoft paid $11.25 per IP to Nortel for 666k addresses
- ttul 8y agoI bought a /20 in 2015 for $6.00/address. I am feeling very lucky.
- nothis 8y agoWhat's up with IPv6, anyways?
- OedipusRex 8y agoEnough address space for every atom on the surface of the earth.
- dijit 8y agoYet as far as I can tell no cloud provider is taking it seriously. GCP only supports it on the edge for their load balancers for instance.
- rsync 8y agoAll rsync.net locations[1] have ipv6 addresses. [1] Cali., Denver, Zurich, Hong Kong
- cbm-vic-20 8y agoBeen a customer of yours for ten years. No BS. Just works.
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- w8rbt 8y agoIPv6 works fine in AWS. I have several v6 only resources there now... no problems. No SSH scans, no elastic IP fees, no log noise from all the IPv4 idiots. It's heaven.
- diegoperini 8y agoSo abundant, has no value.
- Zrdr 8y agoI would say "no cost". On the hosting service I use, you can rent an IPv6 only host and you pay less. Why would you pay for an IPv4 address if you don't need it ?
- sigi45 8y agoWe needed a few static ipv4 addresses for interconnects. Customer <> us Office <> us Us @aws <> us @azure With having so many customers there are probably enough with use cases which requires that ipv4 and having them is probably a necessity.
- tootie 8y agoI haven't worked much in IoT but I kinda assumed devices get private IPs on whatever LAN and phone home to traverse NAT.