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On the other hand, these shady practices are a testament to AMD's technical superiority, as the incumbent is showing himself to be very desperate to react altho

On the other hand, these shady practices are a testament to AMD's technical superiority, as the incumbent is showing himself to be very desperate to react although it has absolutely no answer to AMD's new line of products.

marmaduke 8y ago
That's not something you can cite or point to when justifying a purchasing choice to $pointy_haired_boss
Koshkin 8y ago
AMD does not have techinal superiority, as Intel cores have better single-thread performance. Look at the recent low-end i3-8100 - it is an amazing chip.
- AnthonyMouse 8y ago
  But Intel won't even give that to you. The i3-8100 doesn't have turbo boost, which means it's stuck at 3.6GHz and typically doesn't have faster single thread performance than AMD's faster chips. If you want Intel to sell you the one that hits 5GHz you have to pay for more cores which, if all you care about is single thread performance, you can't even use.
- api 8y ago
  Single-threaded performance is a toss up and depends on work load. Overall AMD beats them on price/performance and multithreaded performance, which matter more for everything but some games and a few not easily parallelize-able tasks.
  - celeritascelery 8y ago
    > Single-threaded performance is a toss up and depends on work load. I would actually say the exact opposite is true. Single threaded performance is much more reliable and every single application can use it. Multithreaded performance is much more workload dependent, and there are many applications that can’t fully utilize it.
  - dragontamer 8y ago
    You might be surprised what is single-threaded bound in practice. Such as Video Editors: Adobe Premier in particular. https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=50616 https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=50616
psyclobe 8y ago
I like to hate on Intel as much as the next guy but as someone currently shopping for a new workstation, I still see Intel as having the better offerings across the board, at least if you're not taking price into consideration. Take for example their HEDT competitor, Threadripper. As much as I want to like it, the fact that two of the cores don't have direct memory access really is a problem. You can see the detrimental effects this can have: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13516/the-amd-threadripper-2-cpu-review-pt2-2970wx-2920x/7 https://www.anandtech.com/show/13516/the-amd-threadripper-2-...

marmaduke 8y ago

That's not something you can cite or point to when justifying a purchasing choice to $pointy_haired_boss

Koshkin 8y ago

AMD does not have techinal superiority, as Intel cores have better single-thread performance. Look at the recent low-end i3-8100 - it is an amazing chip.

AnthonyMouse 8y ago
But Intel won't even give that to you. The i3-8100 doesn't have turbo boost, which means it's stuck at 3.6GHz and typically doesn't have faster single thread performance than AMD's faster chips. If you want Intel to sell you the one that hits 5GHz you have to pay for more cores which, if all you care about is single thread performance, you can't even use.
api 8y ago
Single-threaded performance is a toss up and depends on work load. Overall AMD beats them on price/performance and multithreaded performance, which matter more for everything but some games and a few not easily parallelize-able tasks.
- celeritascelery 8y ago
  > Single-threaded performance is a toss up and depends on work load. I would actually say the exact opposite is true. Single threaded performance is much more reliable and every single application can use it. Multithreaded performance is much more workload dependent, and there are many applications that can’t fully utilize it.
- dragontamer 8y ago
  You might be surprised what is single-threaded bound in practice. Such as Video Editors: Adobe Premier in particular. https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=50616 https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=50616

psyclobe 8y ago

I like to hate on Intel as much as the next guy but as someone currently shopping for a new workstation, I still see Intel as having the better offerings across the board, at least if you're not taking price into consideration. Take for example their HEDT competitor, Threadripper. As much as I want to like it, the fact that two of the cores don't have direct memory access really is a problem. You can see the detrimental effects this can have: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13516/the-amd-threadripper-2-cpu-review-pt2-2970wx-2920x/7 https://www.anandtech.com/show/13516/the-amd-threadripper-2-...