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It might be good for a red state to get an HQ, though, since educated people will for once migrate there instead of away from there.

didgeoridoo 8y ago
Except the net migration flow in recent decades has been from "blue" to "red" states, not the other way around... do you have any source for the claim that those moving are disproportionately not "educated" people? https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/04/24/the_politics_of_migration_from_blue_to_red__133681.html https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/04/24/the_po...
- mrep 8y ago
  Well obviously all educated people vote democratic because only uneducated people would ever vote republican \s
- esf 8y ago
  California migration is disproportionate this way. In-migration to CA is high income and high educated vs out-migration is middle to low income and less educated. I believe I've seen these trend analyzed in other states as well (low and middle income earners have the most to gain by moving to lower cost of living states, so it's a common pattern). https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article136478098.html https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article13647809... https://lao.ca.gov/laoecontax/article/detail/265 https://lao.ca.gov/laoecontax/article/detail/265 http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-california-migration-20150101-story.html http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-california-migration-2...
  - xienze 8y ago
    > In-migration to CA is high income and high educated vs out-migration is middle to low income and less educated. Perhaps you should clarify that this is true of legal in-migration. Wanna take any guesses as to how wealthy and educated the folks crossing over the border on a continual basis are?
    - esf 8y ago
      The question and references are specifically about domestic state to state migration patterns. That was was obvious from context. Illegal immigration to Texas btw is much higher than to California: https://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/article174373881.html https://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/article174373...
    - jonathankoren 8y ago
      All in-migration is legal. The United States does not have an internal passport.
fipple 8y ago
LOL. There are tons of educated people who move to Texas. Ever heard of Texas Instruments?
- thaumasiotes 8y ago
  Everyone's heard of Texas Instruments, but the products that make them famous aren't exactly an advertisement for attracting skilled staff. A TI calculator is less than $1 worth of functionality, $100 of "you can use this on standardized tests without being considered a cheater", and $50 of brand recognition. The whole selling point of the product is that it's just as bad now as it was 25 years ago.
  - mikeash 8y ago
    That’s like saying GE can’t atteact skilled staff because people only know them for their light bulbs. The sort of people that TI needs to attract will know that they are far more than just old-fashioned calculators.
    - thaumasiotes 8y ago
      I'm saying "ever heard of Texas Instruments?" isn't a good argument, because while everyone has heard of it, they know it only for making useless products that don't need or want additional design. The fact that you've heard of it is entirely unrelated to the number of people it employs and in what capacity it employs them.
      - mikeash 8y ago
        This is a place where you’d expect people to know what TI actually does, not just the calculators. “Ever heard of X?” is an idiom that means something like “here’s an obvious example you should already know about.” It doesn’t imply that knowing about it proves something. It’s a perfectly fine argument that just says, “TI exists and attracts educated employees.”
  - xienze 8y ago
kodablah 8y ago
> migrate there instead of away from there Citation, or are you guessing? Which state has the most people migrating to it? To determine whether they are educated, the reason for the migration can help.

didgeoridoo 8y ago

Except the net migration flow in recent decades has been from "blue" to "red" states, not the other way around... do you have any source for the claim that those moving are disproportionately not "educated" people? https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/04/24/the_politics_of_migration_from_blue_to_red__133681.html https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/04/24/the_po...

mrep 8y ago
Well obviously all educated people vote democratic because only uneducated people would ever vote republican \s
esf 8y ago
California migration is disproportionate this way. In-migration to CA is high income and high educated vs out-migration is middle to low income and less educated. I believe I've seen these trend analyzed in other states as well (low and middle income earners have the most to gain by moving to lower cost of living states, so it's a common pattern). https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article136478098.html https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article13647809... https://lao.ca.gov/laoecontax/article/detail/265 https://lao.ca.gov/laoecontax/article/detail/265 http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-california-migration-20150101-story.html http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-california-migration-2...
- xienze 8y ago
  > In-migration to CA is high income and high educated vs out-migration is middle to low income and less educated. Perhaps you should clarify that this is true of legal in-migration. Wanna take any guesses as to how wealthy and educated the folks crossing over the border on a continual basis are?
  - esf 8y ago
    The question and references are specifically about domestic state to state migration patterns. That was was obvious from context. Illegal immigration to Texas btw is much higher than to California: https://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/article174373881.html https://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/article174373...
  - jonathankoren 8y ago
    All in-migration is legal. The United States does not have an internal passport.

fipple 8y ago

LOL. There are tons of educated people who move to Texas. Ever heard of Texas Instruments?

thaumasiotes 8y ago
Everyone's heard of Texas Instruments, but the products that make them famous aren't exactly an advertisement for attracting skilled staff. A TI calculator is less than $1 worth of functionality, $100 of "you can use this on standardized tests without being considered a cheater", and $50 of brand recognition. The whole selling point of the product is that it's just as bad now as it was 25 years ago.
- mikeash 8y ago
  That’s like saying GE can’t atteact skilled staff because people only know them for their light bulbs. The sort of people that TI needs to attract will know that they are far more than just old-fashioned calculators.
  - thaumasiotes 8y ago
    I'm saying "ever heard of Texas Instruments?" isn't a good argument, because while everyone has heard of it, they know it only for making useless products that don't need or want additional design. The fact that you've heard of it is entirely unrelated to the number of people it employs and in what capacity it employs them.
    - mikeash 8y ago
      This is a place where you’d expect people to know what TI actually does, not just the calculators. “Ever heard of X?” is an idiom that means something like “here’s an obvious example you should already know about.” It doesn’t imply that knowing about it proves something. It’s a perfectly fine argument that just says, “TI exists and attracts educated employees.”
- xienze 8y ago

kodablah 8y ago

> migrate there instead of away from there Citation, or are you guessing? Which state has the most people migrating to it? To determine whether they are educated, the reason for the migration can help.