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Deplatforming fuels polarization, so one thing I would look at the PEW research study that shows how the center has collapsed, making it impossible for moderate

Deplatforming fuels polarization, so one thing I would look at the PEW research study that shows how the center has collapsed, making it impossible for moderates to win elections: http://www.epsilontheory.com/things-fall-apart-pt-1/ http://www.epsilontheory.com/things-fall-apart-pt-1/

api 8y ago
The center collapsed before deplatforming was a big thing. I think you have the arrow of causation backward. Deplatforming is driven by increasing polarization. The center collapsed because the establishment discredited itself in the 2000s: Iraq, the housing bubble, banks-before-people bailouts, etc. Now everyone is flailing around looking for alternatives. The hard right was first to the dance, but I see a lot of signs of growth on the hard left too. I wonder if the hard left will get deplatformed too if the rhetoric starts sounding really extreme? They might, especially if there is a loud call for wealth redistribution.
- amanaplanacanal 8y ago
  Interesting thought. Given that the majority in all western countries already seem pretty OK with wealth redistribution in the form of their current welfare systems, calling for more of it doesn't seem that extreme. But I could turn out to be wrong about that. We certainly live in interesting times.
asdfasgasdgasdg 8y ago
> Deplatforming fuels polarization More citations needed! This is a bare assertion that is not widely agreed upon. The polarization was getting worse long before the deplatforming trend started. Since you started out the game, I'll add a bare assertion of my own. Constantly being bombarded with extremist views fuels polarization! Under that thesis, deplatforming actively works against polarization. The moral of the story is that you can make almost any argument as long as you are allowed to rely on unproved premises.

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Deplatforming fuels polarization, so one thing I would look at the PEW research study that shows how the center has collapsed, making it impossible for moderate

by StuntPope 8y ago

api 8y ago
The center collapsed before deplatforming was a big thing. I think you have the arrow of causation backward. Deplatforming is driven by increasing polarization. The center collapsed because the establishment discredited itself in the 2000s: Iraq, the housing bubble, banks-before-people bailouts, etc. Now everyone is flailing around looking for alternatives. The hard right was first to the dance, but I see a lot of signs of growth on the hard left too. I wonder if the hard left will get deplatformed too if the rhetoric starts sounding really extreme? They might, especially if there is a loud call for wealth redistribution.
- amanaplanacanal 8y ago
  Interesting thought. Given that the majority in all western countries already seem pretty OK with wealth redistribution in the form of their current welfare systems, calling for more of it doesn't seem that extreme. But I could turn out to be wrong about that. We certainly live in interesting times.
asdfasgasdgasdg 8y ago
> Deplatforming fuels polarization More citations needed! This is a bare assertion that is not widely agreed upon. The polarization was getting worse long before the deplatforming trend started. Since you started out the game, I'll add a bare assertion of my own. Constantly being bombarded with extremist views fuels polarization! Under that thesis, deplatforming actively works against polarization. The moral of the story is that you can make almost any argument as long as you are allowed to rely on unproved premises.