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I'm OK with Macbook's prices, but not with their abysmal keyboards. I'm not buying another one until that is fixed.

threeseed 8y ago
They are on the 3rd generation keyboards now. They are fixed in the sense that they don't break as easily nor are affected by dust etc like previous generations. But if you didn't sort of like the 1st generation I don't think you will like the 3rd, 4th, 5th etc.
- MBCook 8y ago
  > They are fixed in the sense that they don't break as easily nor are affected by dust etc like previous generations. As far as we know. It’s only been a few months.
dpkonofa 8y ago
Man... I love the new MacBook keyboards. I know they're not for everyone but I love the feel of it. Any other laptop I use gets my mechanical keyboard plugged in immediately. The MacBook just feels so damn nice.
- ElBarto 8y ago
  I like the feel but the feel means nothing if it stops working after a year.
  - dpkonofa 8y ago
    I've had this MacBook for 2 years now and the keyboard is still working. I have a year-old work machine too with the v2 keyboard and it's still working. Maybe I'm just more careful around my expensive electronics than most. Who knows?
    - ElBarto 8y ago
      How come the keyboard has become some infamous, then? Strange...
      - ksec 8y ago
        Because we expect Keyboard to last. Even the crappy ones that doesn't feel good with typing should last 5+ years with less than 1% repair rate. The newest Apple keyboard had close to 3% repair rate, and we had expect it to be less than 0.1% from Apple. That is a 30+ times difference.
      - dpkonofa 8y ago
        I would argue that, because it's Apple, the people experiencing issues are more vocal and because, realistically, this is the first generation of the new butterfly keyboard so there will be some growing pains. I believe Ars posted a hardware survey sent to a bunch of laptop owners and the majority of Apple users preferred the new keyboard. YMMV, obviously, but I think it's much easier for issues to become "infamous" now that more people are using them and they all have easier access to post their complaints in public. On top of that, blogs and tech "journalists" want to jump in on any problem they can.

They are on the 3rd generation keyboards now. They are fixed in the sense that they don't break as easily nor are affected by dust etc like previous generations. But if you didn't sort of like the 1st generation I don't think you will like the 3rd, 4th, 5th etc.

MBCook 8y ago
> They are fixed in the sense that they don't break as easily nor are affected by dust etc like previous generations. As far as we know. It’s only been a few months.

dpkonofa 8y ago

Man... I love the new MacBook keyboards. I know they're not for everyone but I love the feel of it. Any other laptop I use gets my mechanical keyboard plugged in immediately. The MacBook just feels so damn nice.

ElBarto 8y ago
I like the feel but the feel means nothing if it stops working after a year.
- dpkonofa 8y ago
  I've had this MacBook for 2 years now and the keyboard is still working. I have a year-old work machine too with the v2 keyboard and it's still working. Maybe I'm just more careful around my expensive electronics than most. Who knows?
  - ElBarto 8y ago
    How come the keyboard has become some infamous, then? Strange...
    - ksec 8y ago
      Because we expect Keyboard to last. Even the crappy ones that doesn't feel good with typing should last 5+ years with less than 1% repair rate. The newest Apple keyboard had close to 3% repair rate, and we had expect it to be less than 0.1% from Apple. That is a 30+ times difference.
    - dpkonofa 8y ago
      I would argue that, because it's Apple, the people experiencing issues are more vocal and because, realistically, this is the first generation of the new butterfly keyboard so there will be some growing pains. I believe Ars posted a hardware survey sent to a bunch of laptop owners and the majority of Apple users preferred the new keyboard. YMMV, obviously, but I think it's much easier for issues to become "infamous" now that more people are using them and they all have easier access to post their complaints in public. On top of that, blogs and tech "journalists" want to jump in on any problem they can.