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Ah, just in time as we are moving away from passcodes and using things that are publicly available, such as "your face," which isn't protected. Just hold the ph
by cronix 8y ago
Ah, just in time as we are moving away from passcodes and using things that are publicly available, such as "your face," which isn't protected. Just hold the phone up to the face and wait until they open their eyes, which they eventually will. Or ask, "do you recognize this phone?" as they hold it up to your face. It's already started.
- MonkeyDan 8y agoI really wish Apple would offer two-factor auth in the form of fingerprint then PIN. Is that an option on the iPhone Xs with Face ID?
- wool_gather 8y agoIt is not. If you prefer, you can use just a password, in lieu of Face/Touch ID, but there's no support for requiring both to unlock.
- beatgammit 8y agoThat's what I do on my phone. I have a fairly lengthy passphrase and Smart Lock.
- WorldMaker 8y agoIt's something I feel Windows Hello gets right some of the time, but not enough recognition for. Windows Hello can be set to (and I believe defaults to) require PINs/passwords on the first time a device boots up or asks a security challenge, thereby the face rec or thumbprint ID challenge itself is only for "repeat" checks / secondary factor.
- Nullabillity 8y agoThis is what Android has done since biometric auth support was added.
- saurik 8y agoThis is exactly how iOS works...
- colejohnson66 8y agoThen what happens when it can’t read your fingerprint or face?
- craftyguy 8y ago> we are moving away from passcodes Who is moving away from passcodes? AFAIK, all major smartphone operating systems support passcode authentication. Folks tried to say the same thing when fingerprint readers were integrated on smartphones, and here we are, still able to use passcodes...
- beatgammit 8y agoYet a large number (and probably the majority with the capability) of people use fingerprint scanners or face unlock. How many of those people understand that those lock methods are not covered by the fifth amendment?
- craftyguy 8y agoI'm not arguing that those methods aren't popular, but that 'we' are not all moving away from passcodes to using them. There are still folks using passcodes, and passcodes continue to be a supported authentication mechanism.
- andrewflnr 8y agoI feel like you're missing the forest for one particular tree that's about the get chopped down. Memorized secrets, in some form or another, will probably always be a linchpin of security, if not for phone login than for disk encryption, unlocking smart cards and the like.