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Unicode Dicks
- smallerize 8y agoIt is in the section "Parts of the Human Body" but I can't find a source willing to call it out by name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardiner%27s_sign_list#D._Parts_of_the_human_body https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardiner%27s_sign_list#D._Part... Edit: found one https://archive.org/details/COLLIERMANLEY1999EgyptianHieroglyphsStepByStepGuide/page/n141 https://archive.org/details/COLLIERMANLEY1999EgyptianHierogl... via @FakeUnicode on Twitter https://twitter.com/FakeUnicode/status/722139283381821440 https://twitter.com/FakeUnicode/status/722139283381821440
- trulyrandom 8y agoNow that this is more commonly known, I wonder how long it will take for social media platforms to start filtering it out.
- wl 8y agoThat would be unfortunate for people working with or discussing Egyptian texts. It's not like this is an uncommon symbol in hieroglyphic texts.
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- lostlogin 8y agoreificator’s comment (summarised as “but the children”) has been flagged, which is a fairly amusing commentary on this. It’s exactly how the thread suggested it will play out. Guns and bombs are fine (and autocorrect is suggesting I use them on iOS) but this isn’t.
- celeritascelery 8y agoHow many Egyptologists are discussing hyroglyphics on social media?
- wl 8y agoI'm no Egyptologist, but I have discussed middle Egyptian hieroglyphic texts on Facebook. Admittedly, images, images of text produced by JSesh, and standard transliterations are more common than Unicode.
- Isamu 8y agoAh, I wondered when this would be come up, so to speak. It's just the Egyptian Hieroglyph Unicode block. Apparently the ancient Egyptians were not aware of the comedic value of this symbol to future generations.
- reificator 8y ago> Apparently the ancient Egyptians were not aware of the comedic value of this symbol to future generations. I wouldn't be so sure about that...
- draw_down 8y agoRight, I'm sure even people in antiquity thought bodies and poop were funny.
- wahern 8y ago> It is a saying of the Sumerians, who lived in what is now southern Iraq and goes: "Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husband's lap." https://www.reuters.com/article/us-joke-odd/worlds-oldest-joke-traced-back-to-1900-bc-idUSKUA14785120080731 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-joke-odd/worlds-oldest-jo...
- rpeden 8y agoWhenever I read about Roman graffiti, I can't help but think humans have't changed all that much over time: http://www.pompeiana.org/Resources/Ancient/Graffiti%20from%20Pompeii.htm http://www.pompeiana.org/Resources/Ancient/Graffiti%20from%2...
- shagie 8y agoThere are some there... yea. We haven't changed that much. What did Chie ever do?
- drivingmenuts 8y ago
- Millennium 8y agoThis will end well.
- idbehold 8y agoWhy does 𓂸 render correctly in Chrome's address bar, but not anywhere inside a webpage rendered inside Chrome?
- skykooler 8y agoChrome's address bar uses OS fonts, whereas webpages use Chrome's fonts.
- travisoneill1 8y agoRenders correctly in Firefox
- dhimes 8y agoI'm missing quite a lot of them in firefox on linux
- bspammer 8y agoIt's working for me with Chrome on Android
- Avamander 8y agoTime to buy `𓂸.tld`
- shawn 8y agoI was promised dicks, but all I see are boxes. https://imgur.com/rTf521N https://imgur.com/rTf521N Mildly disappointed. (Chrome 70, OSX 10.13.4)
- reificator 8y agoOn a more serious note: > And for those of you on Windows with a censored font Anyone know how to resolve this? I think Mark Twain would deem me capable of chewing steak...
- trhway 8y agointeresting PM meeting they had. Or following Carlin - "3 dirty hieroglyphs you cant see".
- wl 8y agoThis symbol has a couple of uses in writing ancient Egyptian. The most common use is probably as a determinative. Ancient Egyptian, much like many Semitic languages, omits the vowels in a word in writing. Determinatives are ideograms that disambiguate between several words with the same consonants but different meanings. This symbol is used to denote maleness or strength. For example, 𓂓𓏺 is ka for "spirit." 𓂓𓂸 is ka for "bull." (We could also add 𓃒 to 𓂓 for "bull" in addition to or instead of 𓂸) Phonetically, Egyptian hieroglyphs use what's called the Rebus principle. For example, in English we could write https://i.imgur.com/Rp51iOt.png https://i.imgur.com/Rp51iOt.png (hn ate my emoji) for belief. When this symbol is used phonetically, it represents the consonants "mt" because the ancient Egyptian word for phallus used those consonants. If we wanted to write "phallus," we could write 𓂸𓏺 with the stroke afterwards to denote that we mean the symbol, not its phonetic value. Edit: hn cut out my emoji unicode. Replaced the emoji unicode with an image link.
- jbigelow76 8y agoThe most common use is probably as a determinative. Ancient Egyptian, much like many Semitic languages, omits the vowels in a word in writing. Determinatives are ideograms that disambiguate between several words with the same consonants but different meanings. That's an interesting fact. As someone with no knowledge of how languages are formed it makes me wonder why have a written language that purposefully omits vowels if other characters would need to be introduced in their place for disambiguation? What was the point of removing vowels?
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- jrochkind1 8y agoThey didn't remove em, it just never occured to them to have them. There's still an interesting question about why old languages from that region didn't have vowels, if this is true of other ancient written languages from other regions, when vowels were added/why/etc.
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- cozzyd 8y agoThe google-noto-sans-egyptian-hieroglyphs-fonts package provides the required fonts to enjoy this page on Fedora/CentOS 7.
- yorwba 8y agoIf Rongorongo ever gets included in Unicode, there'll be a new variant: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Roro_076.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Roro_076.svg There's probably a similar glyph in ancient Chinese oracle bone script, which might one day end up in Unicode as well.
- blueprint 8y ago> bone script Hey, no puns allowed on HN.
- Twisell 8y agoUnicode seems also censored on Android, but I successfully sent 𓂸 over iMessage ^^
- nfriedly 8y agoIt renders correctly on my Pixel 2, in both Chrome and Firefox. Up-to-date stock firmware.
- ChristianBundy 8y agoYeah, "censored in Android" is like saying "censored in Linux".
- Twisell 8y agoBut what the point if your correspondent can’t see your 𓂸 on the sms app?
- ChristianBundy 8y agoMy SMS app has no problem with sending or receiving that character. For reference, I'm using Google Messages version 3.7.052 on a Google Pixel XL.
- lostlogin 8y ago𓂸 End to end encryption 𓂸 Multiplatform 𓂸 Unicode standards compliant
- david_draco 8y agoThere are some examples of usages here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Phallus_(hieroglyph) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Phallus_(hierogl... They can mean urinate, semen; man; husband. Combined with other symbols, one can form the meanings: copulate, ass/donkey and coward. The last may be the egyptian equivalent of "dickhead".
- ciex 8y agoThere really is no good reason in the spirit of unicode not to have actual emojis for more bodyparts, including genitals.
- tveita 8y agoIt hasn't gone by completely unnoticed https://twitter.com/unicode/status/722133439726505984 https://twitter.com/unicode/status/722133439726505984
- teacpde 8y agoU+130B8 translates to d80cdcb8 in utf-16 hex. On mac, switch to Unicode Hex Input, hold down Option key and type d80cdcb8
- api 8y ago$ echo 𓂺 𓂺 Yup. The singularity is near.
- js2 8y agoI was hoping an HN reader would be able to comment on what the purpose of the middle (𓂹) symbol is. Anyone? Googling the symbol hasn't provided any leads.
- wl 8y agoSign D52A is a monogram combining sign D52 (transliteration: mt, phallus) and sign S29 (transliteration: s, folded cloth). It is read smt or smt(r). Possible translations, depending on context include the verbs to hear, to examine, to bear witness to, or to inquire.
- irrational 8y agoThe folded cloth was used by itself or in combination with many other signs, for example: 𓋴 U+132F4 folded cloth 𓄸 U+13138 folded cloth and intestines 𓋵 U+132F5 folded cloth and horned viper 𓋶 U+132F6 folded cloth and sickle 𓌭 U+1332D folded cloth and knife sharpener 𓌯 U+1332F folded cloth and butcher's knife sharpener There are other signs that they also combined like this, for example, 𓌌 U+1330C cobra with mace Both the cobra and the mace are also standalone signs, just as all the signs above are standalone signs in addition to being combined with the folded cloth. Why did the egyptians combine signs like this? I'm not sure. I've never read an explanation for it.
- wl 8y agoIt's pretty common for signs to be rearranged or omitted for aesthetic reasons. There was a strong preference for signs to be grouped in boxes. For example, if we were find 𓅨𓂋 wr, it would almost always be written with 𓂋 underneath 𓅨. With the 𓋴 combinations, we're combining with symbols that are mostly horizontal with a vertical symbol. Sure, you could stack them, flip them to be parallel, or put them after each other like I did with 𓅨𓂋 wr. However, some scribes probably thought combining them in crosses looked better than any of the alternatives.
- Midnightas 8y agoThat profile picture made the article much more hilarious.
- KaiserPro 8y agois there a range of unicode vaginas, you know, for, erm, balance?
- wl 8y agoNo, but continuing on with Egyptian body part hieroglyphs, there is Gardner sign D27, Unicode U+13091.
- KaiserPro 8y agoits a start....
- irrational 8y agoVaginas? No. (Did you maybe mean Vulva?) But, there are breasts.
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- monochromatic 8y ago> And for those of you on Windows with a censored font (what a thing!) this is what they look like. I've never heard about censored fonts, but I am on Windows and these indeed do not work. How do I fix that?
- rjsw 8y agoMaybe install an extra font, this [1] one works for me. [1] http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/Nilus.zip http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/Nilus.zip
- gouggoug 8y agoOn my mac os Mojave, those glyph do not show up (aka, they show up as square boxes). Anybody else experiencing this on mac os mojave or is it something wrong on my end? edit: they don't show up in chrome and won't work in slack, they do work in iMessage. edit2: safari happily displays them
- irrational 8y agoI'm disappointed the article doesn't also point out that there are also egyptian hieroglyphic characters for breasts.
- irrational 8y agoOther semi-risque hieroglpyphics: 𓂑 U+13091 small breast 𓂒 U+13092 large breast 𓁒 U+13052 giving birth 𓁔 U+13054 breastfeeding 𓁤 U+13064 the god min 𓄡 U+13121 animals belly showing teats and tail 𓐍 U+1340D possibly the placenta, though could be a sieve
- elchief 8y agoASCII dick to the rescue: 8===D
- croon 8y agoThat URL was apropos of the post funny on another level for those of us who speak Swedish, as "kuk" means the rude kind of dick, that isn't a rooster.
- grandmczeb 8y agoHonest question: Why isn't there a penis emoji? As far as I can tell, the exclusion criteria given by the UTC doesn't forbid it and it seems to meet all the standards for inclusion. Is it just prudishness on the part of the UTC?
- rococode 8y agoFor anyone else who's curious what their standards are, the guidelines seem to be here: http://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html#selection_factors http://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html#selection_factors I guess they could say it falls under "Already representable" since we have eggplant emojis lmao. I would have guessed that they want to avoid emojis that are generally used in crude/offensive contexts, but there's a middle finger emoji so...
- grandmczeb 8y ago> I guess they could say it falls under "Already representable" since we have eggplant emojis lmao. By that logic there's no need for the smiley emoji since we already have :). I expect that the given reason would be that vendors would be unlikely to implement it. That's at least plausible, but if the UTC has ever given an actual reason I'd like to hear it.
- benzofuran 8y agoIt's a shame that whomever has bagged 𓂸.com just redirects to google.
- czbond 8y agoI'm drunk as shit, and this is f*cking funny. Happy Halloween! 48617070792048616c6c6f7765656e <--- Hex
- singingfish 8y agoseems this is a reasonable combination of characters to represent a specific kind of activity 𓂺
- codezero 8y agoIt was actually pretty uncommon for ancient humans to draw the human form, let alone dicks. I think one of the earlier images with a dick in it was of birdman. More current anthro or art history buffs hopefully will put me in my place. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lascaux#/media/File%3ALascaux_01.jpg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lascaux#/media/File%3ALascau... Edit I mention this becaus the author speculates humans have been drawing dicks for ages. Society had been much more interested in the female form. See the Venus figurines: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_figurines https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_figurines This all makes a bit of sense if you acknowledge the patriarchy: how much of your interest and indeed porn is dick focused after you’re 12?