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"Expecting one program at one location to stop the entire problem is expecting a lot. " Nobody is expecting insite to 'solve the problem'. But - it has to pro
by sonnyblarney 8y ago
"Expecting one program at one location to stop the entire problem is expecting a lot. "
Nobody is expecting insite to 'solve the problem'.
But - it has to provide some material result - and it does not.
Moreover, there are a flurry of such programs in the neighbourhood, and entire 'self harm industry' of services etc. - and they don't seem to be working.
"There's plenty of evidence that opiate dependence treatment works"
Not arguing with that. The point is, 'insite' doesn't seem to be effectively doing that given the costs - and the negative attribute of supporting/normalizing drug activity.
"But would the problem be worse without the current programs?"
Time for a different approach.
The absolute worst part of the 'soft on drugs' approach is that police aren't willing to do go after people doing bad stuff right in the open.
That part of Vancouver is an open-air drug bazar and it has to stop.
While it may be rational to decriminalize drugs - it's equally rational to implement the actual law in meaningful ways.
It would be rational to have police walking up and down that street all day, making sure nothing illegal is happening - taking a fairly heavy hand.
'Breaking up the critical mass' of bad behaviour, breaking up social networks - this should be the first thing the police should do.
So many people get involved (or get re-involved) because it's easy to score, it's easy to hook up with the community.
Not allowing geographic critical masses or social critical masses to form should be #1 on the agenda.
Of course, drugs will 'always be available' but it's a game of Supply and Demand - and if you can put pressure on the supply so social and economic costs raise - then you can get less people involved in the game.
If anyone is caught in public, high on a hard drug - they should immediately have their name in a DB - and if caught twice, they should basically have mandatory counselling or they should go off to a clinic.
It's absurd that Canadians have to pay the massive price for easy and free hospital care for people who chose (and it is a choice in the end) to do self destructive things.
This way, there's no fear of jail or whatever for hardcore druggies, and frankly 'those who can handle their drugs' and be functional or whatever, probably won't face scrutiny - they can have loved one's and family members intervene. But many will be priced out, and many will get caught up into clinics which is a better investment.
'Harm Reduction' is far too close to 'turn a blind eye and hope that some will come into programs' and it's just not working.
That area of Vancouver could be cleaned up in a heartbeat if the city actually wanted to. The bazar would be dispersed and minimized even if only because of that.
Edit: 'harm reduction' policies are actually the opposite of 'harm reduction' - it's basically 'harm enablement' - it's just the stupid opposite of 'arbitrary tough on drugs i.e. 0 strikes - you go to jail forever'.
Also - it's widely known that organized crime have control of import shipping docs, it's absurd there isn't a hugely heavy hand on that, with tons of real law enforcement inspections. That this could knowingly exist implies a total failure of law enforcement.
- Scoundreller 8y ago> Of course, drugs will 'always be available' but it's a game of Supply and Demand - and if you can put pressure on the supply so social and economic costs raise - then you can get less people involved in the game. That has failed miserably. By controlling supply of heroin, suppliers moved to more potent agents that are cheaper to produce and easier to import. This is largely what has driven the thriving of the problem that you have observed. Don’t underestimate the innovation and ingenuity of suppliers.