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Serverless includes other things like google app engine and Heroku.

• mandelbrotwurst 8y ago
  Does it? I always just considered those IaaS and thought "serverless" basically meant AWS Lambda or any comparable service (for which I agree FaaS is quite apt).
  • hawaiianbrah 8y ago
    GAE and Heroku are considered PaaS - Platforms as a Service
    • jshen 8y ago
      I think they are more serverless than PaaS by this definition. https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/serverless/glossary/serverless-vs-paas/ https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/serverless/glossary/serv...
      • manigandham 8y ago
        Cloudflare usually puts out good info but this is really bad marketing material stretched way too far to make a point, because they have their Workers platform and want to ride the "serverless" hype train. Everything mentioned in that diagram is completely arbitrary and varies for every single vendor.
        • jshen 8y ago
          What’s a good definition of serverless in your opinion?
          • manigandham 8y ago
            Serverless doesn't have a good definition because it's not a real concept. At most lambda/workers/functions are really just PaaS, except instead of uploading all of your code, it's just a single file with a single endpoint. If we really need a new term, then micro-paas or FaaS works fine, although most FaaS vendors are expanding to running any arbitrary container with multiple endpoints, so we're right back to normal (but modern) PaaS at the end.
          • nshap 8y ago
            My definition: A serverless application is an application which is comprised of managed code and resources. No infrastructure needs to be managed. Some people like to include pay per use in the definition. p.s. I'm a founder of a company in the serverless space - Epsagon.
      • hawaiianbrah 8y ago
        Okay, sure. But from their own websites: Deploy and run apps on today's most innovative Platform as a Service [1] Google App Engine is GCP's platform as a service (PaaS). [2] [1] https://www.heroku.com/platform https://www.heroku.com/platform [2] https://cloud.google.com/docs/overview/cloud-platform-services https://cloud.google.com/docs/overview/cloud-platform-servic...
• fouc 8y ago
  I haven't heard of those being called serverless. Those are more PaaS I guess.
  • jehlakj 8y ago
    He could have meant that it’s an ambiguous term that could apply to other platforms.
  • jshen 8y ago
    It’s a spectrum and the boundaries are unclear. By this definition https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/serverless/glossary/serverless-vs-paas/ https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/serverless/glossary/serv... they are more serverless than PaaS imo. Either way, serverless is a superset of FaaS.
• nwsm 8y ago
  Firebase seems more fitting for "serverless" than those
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