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Good. Now for Stripe. I already called their customer support this morning and told them I'd pull my organization's account unless they dropped Gab. I'm sure I'
by Asparagirl 8y ago
Good. Now for Stripe. I already called their customer support this morning and told them I'd pull my organization's account unless they dropped Gab. I'm sure I'm not the only customer who has. They enable payments processing for Gab, which means that they also profit from Gab. They make money off the alt-right. They choose to make money off the alt-right.
You want protests in front of your office, Stripe, raising hell about the blood money you take? We can surely arrange that. For every TechBro being oh-so-concerned about "financial censorship, oh noes!": you ain't seen nothing yet.
not doing business with white supremacist profiteers > nice API and documentation
- nkkollaw 8y agoI assume from your pissed-off tone and what you say that you are a some sort of leftist wanna-be activist. Aren't you guys for free speech and minorities? Stopping alt-right (a minority) exercising their right to free speech doesn't seem like a good cause to pursue. It's getting so annoying how leftists want to silence anyone that doesn't agree with them. This is part of the reason why people are abandoning your ideology in droves, at least in Europe. Haven't you become the very thing you think you're fighting, or am I missing something?
- tptacek 8y agoDoes Stripe still process payments for Gab?
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- Asparagirl 8y agoApparently yes, based on several conversations with/from some of their leadership on Twitter today. Stripe did suspend them earlier this month, but that seems to have been temporary.
- Meekro 8y agoI notice your organization (reclaimtherecords.org from your profile) uses Cloudflare, which also serves Gab. Are you going to threaten to leave them, too?
- Asparagirl 8y agoHmmm, that's a good point. But we don't pay Cloudflare, we're on their free plan, so you could say we're actually a drain on their system rather than a customer. In contrast, we pay Stripe quite a bit, so threatening to leave them actually hits them in their wallet. I signed us up for a Braintree account today as soon as I heard the PayPal news (PayPal now owns Braintree). We can take our business elsewhere -- and so can lots of other organizations and companies.
- VectorLock 8y agoAs much as people seem to hate PayPal this event might actually improve people's view of PayPal.
- jesssse 8y agoGab is a free speech platform. Free speech != white supremacist
- nkkollaw 8y agoFree speech is free speech. Even if you don't like what people say (or perhaps specially when you don't like it).
- mikeash 8y agoAlt-right conspiracy nuts != free speech.
- sneak 8y agoHow do you figure?
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- mikeash 8y agoThey’re different concepts, and disassociating with alt-right conspiracy nutcases is unrelated to free speech.
- DuskStar 8y agoBanning alt-right conspiracy theory nutcases might just be related to free speech, however. And that's what most people seem to want Gab to do.
- beatgammit 8y agoYes, it's related to free speech, but I just want to point out that it has nothing to do with the US first amendment protections and likely has nothing to do with free speech laws in other areas as well, since those only restrict what government can do. Choosing to disassociate from speech you don't like is yet another use of free speech, as is banning groups that use speech you don't like from your private platform. So yeah, gab, Reddit, and Facebook are exercising their right to free speech.
- vfclists 8y agoYour virtue signalling is so cringeworthy
- Asparagirl 8y agoOne of the members of our board of directors was almost killed there this morning, but she overslept and missed shul, and so was saved. We’ll stick with our virtue.
- vfclists 8y agoYou may view one of my other responses on the matter - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18318492 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18318492 People like you support freedom of speech or expression only for your views. Democracy is underpinned by the principle, by the faith, that if people are given the right information they will make the right choices, no matter or learned or ignorant they are. This the reason why the votes of people who in less politcally correct times would be clinically labelled as idiots, morons, or simpletons carry as much power as those of members of the professions, respected academics, or even high court judges. The antidote to hate speech is not censorship, it is well reasoned counterarguments. This implies that you have taken it upon yourself to judge that some people are not intelligent enough to understand the counterarguments, and that they should be denied access to those counterarguments since those counterarguments will never be made or heard, if the arguments that are being countered are not allowed to be made or heard in the first instance. So can you, together with those others who believe freedom of speech should be curtailed, explain why you are the ones who are intellectualy competent to deny those you consider intellectually challenged the right to hear the viewpoints you disagree with? This is nothing more than intellectual arrogance and superciliousness on the part of the likes of you, and it is time you and likeminded people recognize it for what it is.
- someguydave 8y agoYou make perfect sense but you are probably wasting your time on these folks, unfortunately.
- justtopost 8y agoWhats your company? I will do the same to yours. I think they are terrible, but campaigning against speech is shameful.
- dna_polymerase 8y agoYou are the reason why the Republicans will easily win the mid-terms as well as the 2020 reelection.
- pcwalton 8y agoAsk Republicans whether they think private businesses should be able to reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.
- repolfx 8y agoI flagged this post, which I hardly ever do, both for its vitriolic and sexist tone ("TechBro" is clearly a sexist term of abuse), plus its explicitly threatening nature.
- someguydave 8y agoWhat if someone from the "alt-right" donated to your organization? You should probably start screening donors.
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