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>In my life I've always been involved with free software, patent and copyright law fights In some sense, you're probably living in a bit of a bubble because th

>In my life I've always been involved with free software, patent and copyright law fights In some sense, you're probably living in a bit of a bubble because this is a topic that you're passionate about. I don't necessarily mean this in a bad way. For example, my partner spends her free time involvewith animal welfare, recycling, composting, minimalism, zero waste fights. She'd probably wonder why you don't care about these topics -- yet I'm sure YOU wouldn't say you don't about them, but you probably don't have the same level of passion she does. To her, using a physical key isn't necessary to have good security. Passwords are "good enough". To you, buying bamboo toothbrushes is probably not necessary to minimize waste. Recycling cardboard boxes is "good enough". That doesn't mean anyone is necessarily wrong, you just have different sets of priorities.

quilombodigital 8y ago
I understand your point of view that my priorities may not be the other people priorities. :) Sometimes we judge the others thinking they should act as we do... so I guess the answer is really.... they dont care. :)
- lucozade 8y ago
  > so I guess the answer is really.... they dont care That's not a reasonable characterisation of what drstewart wrote. It would be fairer to say that they don't care as much as you. That's not the same as not caring at all. On the flip side, implied in your question is that you're caring the appropriate amount. What makes that so?
  - quilombodigital 8y ago
    hum... ok... making the devil's advocate part, I cannot guarantee I am "caring the appropriate amount". I certainly have a vision not shared by many, so it is hard to say I am "right", when there are so many brilliant people that dont share the same feeling about anonimity, for example. I accept I am expressing I am worried for others, based on how "I" see the relation between freedom, anonymity, privacy and secure communication.
psionan 8y ago
I beg to differ. There are no emotions at play here. It is a scientific fact that ‘she’ is not practicing safe security. It *will eventually get her in trouble, because hackers, malware, etc don’t care how passionate she is, just if scientifically she chose the correct method to protect her PC. She is 100% wrong to think she is following safe secure processes, when she is or not. This failure to secure her system is the wrong approach. Passion has nothing to do with keeping your PC secure. Why doesn’t she care? It’s obvious: she’s got nothing to hide, and won’t change until a breach occurs, and she learns her lesson. Then she’ll realize the RIGHT and WRONG way to secure a PC, without blaming things like emotion, or passion, or some other excuse.

quilombodigital 8y ago

I understand your point of view that my priorities may not be the other people priorities. :) Sometimes we judge the others thinking they should act as we do... so I guess the answer is really.... they dont care. :)

lucozade 8y ago
> so I guess the answer is really.... they dont care That's not a reasonable characterisation of what drstewart wrote. It would be fairer to say that they don't care as much as you. That's not the same as not caring at all. On the flip side, implied in your question is that you're caring the appropriate amount. What makes that so?
- quilombodigital 8y ago
  hum... ok... making the devil's advocate part, I cannot guarantee I am "caring the appropriate amount". I certainly have a vision not shared by many, so it is hard to say I am "right", when there are so many brilliant people that dont share the same feeling about anonimity, for example. I accept I am expressing I am worried for others, based on how "I" see the relation between freedom, anonymity, privacy and secure communication.

psionan 8y ago

I beg to differ. There are no emotions at play here. It is a scientific fact that ‘she’ is not practicing safe security. It *will eventually get her in trouble, because hackers, malware, etc don’t care how passionate she is, just if scientifically she chose the correct method to protect her PC. She is 100% wrong to think she is following safe secure processes, when she is or not. This failure to secure her system is the wrong approach. Passion has nothing to do with keeping your PC secure. Why doesn’t she care? It’s obvious: she’s got nothing to hide, and won’t change until a breach occurs, and she learns her lesson. Then she’ll realize the RIGHT and WRONG way to secure a PC, without blaming things like emotion, or passion, or some other excuse.