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How hard is it to understand that there are various uses for PC, and yours is only one of those? Plenty of us can't make any use of more than 6-8 cores effectiv

How hard is it to understand that there are various uses for PC, and yours is only one of those? Plenty of us can't make any use of more than 6-8 cores effectively, will never run any VMs or Docker, and plenty of software still will benefit from single-core performance. I am by no means a fan of the price/value ratio for new i9 CPU and any shady marketing cheap tricks generally, but I don't get this 'Ryzen works for me so it should for everybody' all over the tech net these days. Use whatever you feel is the best tool for your needs and your budget. Respect other's choices, even if it means that for some people, this new i9 will be the best/preferred option. Or any other option for that matter that isn't yours.

jacoblambda 8y ago
I think a lot of it comes down to people just showing what works with their use cases and waiting for someone to show them a use case that the other side works better for.
deforciant 8y ago
Apologies, didn't want it to sound like "you have to use Ryzen for everything now" :) I wouldn't recommend it to most of my friends or my family for the same reason you mentioned, none of them will utilize those cores. It just works really well for me and it wildly surpassed my own expectations as I was quite used to the fact that my machine wasn't really usable while I run Kubernetes locally. My workflow used to be: 1. write some code 2. start Kubernetes, wait for it to boot and test the code that I wrote 3. tear it down 4. write some more code 5. repeat I would be loosing quite a lot of time. Also, while waiting for it to start, I would usually get distracted and start doing something else. Ryzen changed this workflow and boosted my productivity. Now I don't even notice whether k8s is running or not, sometimes I forget it for days :D I can't stress enough how important it is to have a lag free development environment.
- noir_lord 8y ago
  Agree with everything you've said I have a 1700 at work and 2700X at home and both are monsters for my workloads. With an evga RTX2080 in the home PC it murders the games I play (elite dangerous mostly) at 4K.
  - deforciant 8y ago
    I have 1080Ti, but haven't tried installing any games yet. Last time I had a gaming PC it consumed way too much time so currently I try to use my ps4 for gaming as it's a lot easier to get bored by it :D
- copperx 8y ago
  Just wondering, are you using Linux on bare metal, or do you virtualize Linux to run K8S?
close04 8y ago
> I don't get this 'Ryzen works for me so it should for everybody' all over the tech net these days This doesn't feel at all like what the OP is saying. I know it's common on the internet to ignore "right tool for the right job" but OP managed to nail the point. Each one is right for a different job. His happens to be more suited for AMD.
jlgaddis 8y ago
The workstation sitting here on my desk has a pair of 8-core Intel CPUs, 128 GB of RAM, a PCIe NVMe disk and a couple SSDs in RAID1, and my primary server in the garage has a pair of 10-core CPUs, 192 GB of RAM, four Enterprise SSDs, and eight 600 GB 15K SAS HDDs in RAID6. Oh, and I'm about to upgrade the networking (from 4 x 1 Gbps) but I'm on the fence between 10 Gbps and Infiniband. I never hit the limits of these machines, so obviously this configuration should work just fine for everyone. :-)
- tfandango 8y ago
  offtopic, but is your garage air conditioned?
  - vel0city 8y ago
    Not to continue too far down this rabbit hole here, but I wouldn't worry about the temperature of a garage as much as I'd worry about really dirty air. https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/03/23/too-hot-for-humans-but-google-servers-keep-humming https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/03/23/too-...
  - Koshkin 8y ago
    Spoken like a true Californian.
  - jlgaddis 8y ago
    I live in Indiana, it's cold here (but yes, it is).

jacoblambda 8y ago

I think a lot of it comes down to people just showing what works with their use cases and waiting for someone to show them a use case that the other side works better for.

deforciant 8y ago

Apologies, didn't want it to sound like "you have to use Ryzen for everything now" :) I wouldn't recommend it to most of my friends or my family for the same reason you mentioned, none of them will utilize those cores. It just works really well for me and it wildly surpassed my own expectations as I was quite used to the fact that my machine wasn't really usable while I run Kubernetes locally. My workflow used to be: 1. write some code 2. start Kubernetes, wait for it to boot and test the code that I wrote 3. tear it down 4. write some more code 5. repeat I would be loosing quite a lot of time. Also, while waiting for it to start, I would usually get distracted and start doing something else. Ryzen changed this workflow and boosted my productivity. Now I don't even notice whether k8s is running or not, sometimes I forget it for days :D I can't stress enough how important it is to have a lag free development environment.

noir_lord 8y ago
Agree with everything you've said I have a 1700 at work and 2700X at home and both are monsters for my workloads. With an evga RTX2080 in the home PC it murders the games I play (elite dangerous mostly) at 4K.
- deforciant 8y ago
  I have 1080Ti, but haven't tried installing any games yet. Last time I had a gaming PC it consumed way too much time so currently I try to use my ps4 for gaming as it's a lot easier to get bored by it :D
copperx 8y ago
Just wondering, are you using Linux on bare metal, or do you virtualize Linux to run K8S?

close04 8y ago

> I don't get this 'Ryzen works for me so it should for everybody' all over the tech net these days This doesn't feel at all like what the OP is saying. I know it's common on the internet to ignore "right tool for the right job" but OP managed to nail the point. Each one is right for a different job. His happens to be more suited for AMD.

jlgaddis 8y ago

The workstation sitting here on my desk has a pair of 8-core Intel CPUs, 128 GB of RAM, a PCIe NVMe disk and a couple SSDs in RAID1, and my primary server in the garage has a pair of 10-core CPUs, 192 GB of RAM, four Enterprise SSDs, and eight 600 GB 15K SAS HDDs in RAID6. Oh, and I'm about to upgrade the networking (from 4 x 1 Gbps) but I'm on the fence between 10 Gbps and Infiniband. I never hit the limits of these machines, so obviously this configuration should work just fine for everyone. :-)

tfandango 8y ago
offtopic, but is your garage air conditioned?
- vel0city 8y ago
  Not to continue too far down this rabbit hole here, but I wouldn't worry about the temperature of a garage as much as I'd worry about really dirty air. https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/03/23/too-hot-for-humans-but-google-servers-keep-humming https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/03/23/too-...
- Koshkin 8y ago
  Spoken like a true Californian.
- jlgaddis 8y ago
  I live in Indiana, it's cold here (but yes, it is).