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It won't save you - gait detection is also being used in places like China and that's a lot harder to protect yourself from. Systems also tend to use regular a
by fossuser 8y ago
It won't save you - gait detection is also being used in places like China and that's a lot harder to protect yourself from.
Systems also tend to use regular and infrared images for detection too (at least in the case of ALPR).
We need people to care about these things and how the data is used, we need laws for rules around collection, access, and rights. We need to work together towards maintaining the ideas that support western democracy rather than moving towards nationalism.
I worry that instability from climate change and the refugee crisis that comes from that instability will make things worse, along with the current centralization of wealth/inequality issues and rise of more populist right wing movements.
Individual technical solutions will likely not do much to protect you if we lose the cultural framework around democracy.
- kardos 8y agoI thought the workaround there was to put a handful of gravel in your shoes to disguise your gait
- fossuser 8y agoAre you always changing the amount of gravel every time you go out? These work arounds seem pretty unrealistic and likely you could try and train whatever variance they cause anyway into the model.
- stronglikedan 8y ago> gait detection All I can think of is The Ministry of Silly Walks.
- obviousresult 8y agoThe cyberpunk media was all wrong- people won't be wearing masks and punk hairstyles to hide their faces; they'll be walking silly and wearing baggy pants to hide their gaits.
- stronglikedan 8y agoYou have a great point with the baggy pants. I think I'll go invest in Jnco.
- gotocake 8y agoMaybe the future is just full of EM blasters and jammers, made as easy to buy and hard to control as insanely overpowered laser pointers.
- TeMPOraL 8y agoIt's sickening to think that you're going to have to engage in actual electronic warfare with the world around you just to buy some milk for breakfast.
- hannasanarion 8y agoIn order to save yourself from, what exactly? The local grocer having a picture of you in their store?
- TeMPOraL 8y agoWhat do they need that for? Also, such systems are primarily used by chain shops, and provided by specialized companies. Both mean the data gets shared to multiple entities.
- anigbrowl 8y agoLaws are only as reliable as the integrity of those who write and enforce them.
- fossuser 8y agoI agree - that's why it's just as important to maintain the culture of western democracy, government driven by an idea and not by people. If we lose that then the laws won't protect us either. A relevant description I heard that I liked was that democracy is a boulder at the top of a hill that was pushed there by the deaths of millions, ready to roll down at any time. It takes work to keep things in that state and to protect it.
- TheRealDunkirk 8y agoAnd when they're being written by lobbyists from Wal-Mart and Target...
- bradknowles 8y agoOr AT&T, GM, Amazon, and all the other biggest members of the Fortune 100.
- walrus01 8y ago> gait detection not to be confused with galt detection, which tracks people who've read Atlas Shrugged and took its economic/political philosophy a little too seriously.
- tzakrajs 8y agoExoskeleton that walks with a pseudo-random gait.
- Balgair 8y agoChrist! At that point, you just give up and go live in the woods. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz1M5i5Y4Qc&t=1m40s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz1M5i5Y4Qc&t=1m40s
- fossuser 8y ago“Did you find him in the video feed sir?” “We got nothing via gait detection, but the intern noticed this guy walking around in an exoskeleton suit so we sent a unit out to bring him in”
- bradknowles 8y agoNow you know the REAL reason that they banned Segways everywhere! ;)
- Rodeoclash 8y agoNow remember, walk without rhythm, and we won't attract the worm.
- JustSomeNobody 8y agoPut a small pebble in your shoe. Alternate shoes regularly.
- toomanybeersies 8y agoPut a stone in your shoe and periodically move it to change your gait.
- onemoresoop 8y agoGait detection can be easily be fooled, you just wear some weird shoes that make walking hard in. Your gait will change drastically. Alternate between zero drop, heel and reverse heel.
- bonestamp2 8y agoFast forward to the year 2050: "Why is everyone wearing ski boots and ski masks... it's 100 degrees?"
- fossuser 8y agoImagine yourself tasked with solving this problem, how would you do it? The first thing I would do is gather a bunch of data for people walking trying to mess up their gait. Different types of shoes, pebbles in shoes etc. Then include that in the model or even just look for that as suspicious itself. You're not giving enough credit to the capability of the people that do this kind of work. It is not simple to avoid and the vast majority of people would not even go this far. How many people communicate entirely over encryption today?
- tartoran 8y agoIt's actually a hard problem that people who do this encounter and seems impossible to get right. We actually can tell if a friend is walking in the distance by looking at gait+clothes but could make mistkes as well, it's not 100% accurate. For surveillance reasons it's much easier to get 100 accuracy with just tagging people with microchips and that'a that. Why would we want to excel at gait-fingerprinting people?? That's a scary thing to want to perfect. Very Science fictiony and hopefully not prevalent in the future
- AngryData 8y agoRandomized inflating bladders under your toe and heel, change your shoe type as you walk!
- AngryData 8y agoMaybe bell bottom pants will come back in fashion!
- bsenftner 8y agoGait detection is a joke, technically discredited, and only suitable for use by bad journalism. It does not work because it is so easily defeated: put a rock in your shoe, where your shoes on the wrong feet, or just injure a foot. Your gait is different.