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If the code of conduct angers you, stop and think -- how did you feel one minute before you read the CoC? Is the problem really the CoC, or is it your collectio
by _pgmf 8y ago
If the code of conduct angers you, stop and think -- how did you feel one minute before you read the CoC? Is the problem really the CoC, or is it your collection of beliefs that is causing the problem? Furthermore, are you even affected? Do you contribute bug reports or patches? Follow the SQLite mailing list? Is anything here designed to prevent you from continuing to do so?
SQLite's author is a spiritual guy. There's nothing wrong with him borrowing from spiritual sources to describe his ideal for how he wants the SQLite community to conduct itself.
- iodiniemetra 8y ago#1 on the list is: First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength. I'm an atheist - I am unable and unwilling to comply with this CoC. So yes, I would say that I am affected. Other well known religious folk in the foss world, such as Larry Wall, do not insist on this kind of exclusion.
- virtuexru 8y ago> I'm an atheist Don't worry! You can still use SQLite as God is infinite in his grace.
- exolymph 8y agoFrom the preface: "The entire rule is good and wholesome, and yet we make no enforcement of the more introspective aspects."
- runjake 8y agoGood news, the CoC is inclusive for you, with the following: "those who wish to participate" ... "are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that honors the overarching spirit of the rule, even if they disagree with specific details. Polite and professional discussion is always welcomed, from anyone." In other words, calm down.
- roguecoder 8y agoThe overarching spirit of The Rule of St. Benedict is service to Christ.
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- qbaqbaqba 8y agoSo? What's wrong with that? Your service to humankind may as well be a service to Christ. And you are the one to decide what server the Christ.
- whorleater 8y ago>Your service to humankind may as well be a service to Christ. You cannot say this and believe that this CoC is inclusive then.
- vor_ 8y agoIf the religious requirements of the CoC aren't going to be enforced, there's no reason for them. They exist because Richard Hipp is religious.
- jlillyreed 8y agoThey exist because this is a bad faith effort of creating a CoC that only exists to mock the idea of CoCs
- coleifer 8y agoYou wanna know how to tell if someone is an atheist? > I'm an atheist Oh wait, it doesn't matter -- they'll be sure to tell you.
- iodiniemetra 8y agoWhen it's in relation to a post asking, "who's really excluded", I think it's appropriate.
- coleifer 8y agoI'm pretty sure, if you are offended by the word God, you can substitute another word, such as "Ayn Rand" or "the human intellect". Nobodys insisting that you have to do...anything really.
- iodiniemetra 8y agoI am not offended by someone's personally held religious beliefs. I am, however, deliberately excluded if participating means adhering to a code of conduct that targets my beliefs.
- turkeysandwich 8y agoRead the CoC more carefully. Adherence is not mandatory.
- qbaqbaqba 8y agoNo one is excluded.
- pjscott 8y agoA general problem with this genre of claims is that they're pure confirmation bias: you don't notice the people who don't tell you, because they don't tell you.
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- HarryHirsch 8y agoAnyone familiar with Christian tradition will understand the reference to the Gospel: Jesus says that "love God" and "love your neighbour" (# 2 on the list) are the chief commandments and equally important. That's fine. Even if atheists think nothing of God anyone can think the best of the next man. But how am I to understand the requirement in the Ada Initiative-derived FreeBSD code of conduct? In all seriousness, it demands that contributors do not selectively quote from private communication to give a false impression! Is there a special spirituality behind it, a context that I'm not aware of, or are they just stating the obvious? And who needs to be told the rudiments of human interaction in this form? Best, let's stay away from this morass. If the FreeBSD crowd needs to be told that to function, that's a bad sign.
- legostormtroopr 8y agoSo your issue isn't with the Code of Conduct, its with the people badgering them to implement one. The maintainers (and only contributors) implemented a Code of Conduct in line with their community.
- ericnyamu 8y agoYour day in hell is coming very soon.you say God doesnot exist ?that is blasphemy.
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