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Must disagree. If you have money it is easier to find equality/justice. My favorite example: If you can afford it, you can get a license plate expressing your s

by rrggrr 8y ago

Must disagree. If you have money it is easier to find equality/justice. My favorite example: If you can afford it, you can get a license plate expressing your support for the state police (or your state bird). You can add to that fraternal order decals further expressing your support for the police. Does your willingness and ability to purchase those things make you MORE or LESS likely to receive special treatment during a traffic stop than someone without the ability to do so. Think about this.

pc86 8y ago
Have you ever spoken to a police officer? I've worked with several, I've served on a borough council and a civil service commission, I've been contracted out to regional and state law enforcement agencies. Nobody cares about the little sticker you put on your license plate. It's a $5 fundraiser. In my state I think the non-LEO license plates you're talking about are an extra $30 or $40 on top of your normal registration fees. The only thing I've ever heard having any affect like what you're implying are the "police courtesy cards," PBA/FOP cards, whatever they're called in your state. And I haven't heard of them actually preventing any punishment, just incurring more of it.
- lotsofpulp 8y ago
  If governments were serious about preventing corruption, they would have outlawed all those fake police badges and vanity license plates. The only purpose they can serve is to corrupt.
- Scoundreller 8y ago
  Why would you hear about the cases of PBA/FOP cards preventing punishment? The whole point of those interactions is to not talk about what happened. Small gifts can have a big effect. There’s a reason drug reps always want to buy doctors lunches. It’s not for charity: that low double-digit “gift” pays for itself. And the out-the-door cost is $hundreds.
  - pc86 8y ago
    What I meant was I know people who have PBA/FOP cards, have tried to use them, and have gotten a tongue lashing in response in conjunction with no leniency at all. The only ones I've heard of ever working as intended are the courtesy cards for immediate family, and the general consensus is that dealing with your State Trooper father that night is as bad or worse than a $300 speeding ticket.

by rrggrr 8y ago

pc86 8y ago

Have you ever spoken to a police officer? I've worked with several, I've served on a borough council and a civil service commission, I've been contracted out to regional and state law enforcement agencies. Nobody cares about the little sticker you put on your license plate. It's a $5 fundraiser. In my state I think the non-LEO license plates you're talking about are an extra $30 or $40 on top of your normal registration fees. The only thing I've ever heard having any affect like what you're implying are the "police courtesy cards," PBA/FOP cards, whatever they're called in your state. And I haven't heard of them actually preventing any punishment, just incurring more of it.

lotsofpulp 8y ago
If governments were serious about preventing corruption, they would have outlawed all those fake police badges and vanity license plates. The only purpose they can serve is to corrupt.
Scoundreller 8y ago
Why would you hear about the cases of PBA/FOP cards preventing punishment? The whole point of those interactions is to not talk about what happened. Small gifts can have a big effect. There’s a reason drug reps always want to buy doctors lunches. It’s not for charity: that low double-digit “gift” pays for itself. And the out-the-door cost is $hundreds.
- pc86 8y ago
  What I meant was I know people who have PBA/FOP cards, have tried to use them, and have gotten a tongue lashing in response in conjunction with no leniency at all. The only ones I've heard of ever working as intended are the courtesy cards for immediate family, and the general consensus is that dealing with your State Trooper father that night is as bad or worse than a $300 speeding ticket.