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And yet STD rates are skyrocketing in the US. I take Truvada but it’s used as an excuse in the gay commmunity to engage in unprotected sex. If anything the avai

And yet STD rates are skyrocketing in the US. I take Truvada but it’s used as an excuse in the gay commmunity to engage in unprotected sex. If anything the availability of Truvada is probably a leading cause of why STD rates in the gay community are increasing.

JumpCrisscross 8y ago
> STD rates are skyrocketing in the US Source? (If frequencies of curable STDs are rising while those of incurable ones are falling, that would be a good trade.)
- dawhizkid 8y ago
  Edit: common STDs that are treated by antibiotics are becoming drug resistant like anything can be that is treated with antibiotics. Point is don’t think because you can take an antibiotic and make syphilis go away now that you won’t encounter a drug resistant strain now or in the very near future! https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna642161 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna642161 Lol there’s no cure for syphillis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, hep b, genital herpes, etc. The recent year over year increase in STD rates in the US has been very well documented. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904311 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904311
  - dimgl 8y ago
    What are you talking about? There's cures for literally every single one of those diseases you mentioned.
    - dawhizkid 8y ago
      Antibiotics aren’t going to work forever on new strains of common STDs. Already seeing rise in drug resistant strains. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna642161 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna642161
  - denzil_correa 8y ago
    > Lol there’s no cure for syphillis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, hep b, etc etc. Each and everyone disease you listed here can be cured. Example, Syphilis - https://www.cdc.gov/std/syphilis/lab/default.htm https://www.cdc.gov/std/syphilis/lab/default.htm
    - dawhizkid 8y ago
      Antibiotics won’t work forever. Seeing drug resistant strains already. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna642161 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna642161
      - JumpCrisscross 8y ago
        > Antibiotics won’t work forever. Seeing drug resistant strains already You said there's "no cure." That's different. Reducing frequencies of a disease for which there is literally no cure in exchange for higher frequencies of a disease for which there is emerging antibiotic resistance is still a good trade. The article you cite regarding rising STD rates claims the cause is "a decline in funding for state and local agencies working on prevention" as well as "an extreme lack of awareness about STDs and sexual health" and "doctors are not screening and testing for these diseases and patients [not knowing] they need to ask to be tested" [1]. The only link to HIV stated is "people are not afraid of dying from HIV," not a link to prep. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904311 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904311
    - hndamien 8y ago
      If you have a link for the genital herpes cure you will be rich.
      - uniblih 8y ago
        > If you have a link for the genital herpes cure you will be rich. May never happen [0], but one can wish. Although it doesn't have a cure, the treatability, prevalence, and general harmlessness of herpes make it less of an issue than the "curable" STDs. Most doctors don't even bother testing for it [1]. [0] https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-we-still-dont-have-a-herpes-vaccine https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-we-still-dont-hav... [1] https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/screening.htm https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/screening.htm
- dillondoyle 8y ago
  I have strong personal anecdotal evidence that casual hookups are much more upfront about condom-less sex and in fact I find that a shockingly high percent outright refuse condom sex (e.g. bareback only). I'm not sure if the actual condom use rate is lower (I wouldn't be surprised) but in my experience the upfront non-condom attitudes is staggering and way higher than 10 years ago. Tech, attitudes, PrEP have shifted culture and depressingly for me lowers match rates from an already tiny population in my experience by more than 50% of guys on hook up apps !
  - chimeracoder 8y ago
    > I have strong personal anecdotal evidence that casual hookups are much more upfront about condom-less sex and in fact I find that a shockingly high percent outright refuse condom sex (e.g. bareback only). I'm not sure if the actual condom use rate is lower (I wouldn't be surprised) but in my experience the upfront non-condom attitudes is staggering and way higher than 10 years ago. Tech, attitudes, PrEP have shifted culture and depressingly for me lowers match rates from an already tiny population in my experience by more than 50% of guys on hook up apps ! Condom usage has been dropping for decades. It began dropping before ARVs were discovered in the 90s, and it's steadily decreased in the years before PrEP was discovered as well. There are a lot of well-studied reasons for this. So yes, you're right that fewer people are using condoms today than they were 10 years ago, but the correlation runs the other way. The search for a different prevention tool (which resulted in PrEP) was motivated by the fact that people have realized for decades that condoms were not going to be a viable long-term solution for addressing the spread of sexually-transmitted HIV.
    - dillondoyle 8y ago
      Yeah for me the big change I dont think so much is actual condom usage but the up front attitudes. 10 years ago on hookup apps if you said 'bareback only' it would have been taboo to most. But now it seems like that's acceptable and a surprisingly large percent refuse condoms period which is crazy to me. Like for this percent of users sex with a condom is worse than no sex which is what's crazy to me..
chimeracoder 8y ago
> And yet STD rates are skyrocketing in the US. I take Truvada but it’s used as an excuse in the gay commmunity to engage in unprotected sex. If anything the availability of Truvada is probably a leading cause of why STD rates in the gay community are increasing. No, STD prevalence is dropping. STD diagnoses are increasing, because PrEP requires more regular STD testing, which people weren't doing before. Please stop spreading the anti-PrEP propaganda touted by people like Michael Weinstein. It is actively damaging to public health.

JumpCrisscross 8y ago

> STD rates are skyrocketing in the US Source? (If frequencies of curable STDs are rising while those of incurable ones are falling, that would be a good trade.)

dawhizkid 8y ago
Edit: common STDs that are treated by antibiotics are becoming drug resistant like anything can be that is treated with antibiotics. Point is don’t think because you can take an antibiotic and make syphilis go away now that you won’t encounter a drug resistant strain now or in the very near future! https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna642161 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna642161 Lol there’s no cure for syphillis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, hep b, genital herpes, etc. The recent year over year increase in STD rates in the US has been very well documented. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904311 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904311
- dimgl 8y ago
  What are you talking about? There's cures for literally every single one of those diseases you mentioned.
  - dawhizkid 8y ago
    Antibiotics aren’t going to work forever on new strains of common STDs. Already seeing rise in drug resistant strains. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna642161 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna642161
- denzil_correa 8y ago
  > Lol there’s no cure for syphillis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, hep b, etc etc. Each and everyone disease you listed here can be cured. Example, Syphilis - https://www.cdc.gov/std/syphilis/lab/default.htm https://www.cdc.gov/std/syphilis/lab/default.htm
  - dawhizkid 8y ago
    Antibiotics won’t work forever. Seeing drug resistant strains already. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna642161 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna642161
    - JumpCrisscross 8y ago
      > Antibiotics won’t work forever. Seeing drug resistant strains already You said there's "no cure." That's different. Reducing frequencies of a disease for which there is literally no cure in exchange for higher frequencies of a disease for which there is emerging antibiotic resistance is still a good trade. The article you cite regarding rising STD rates claims the cause is "a decline in funding for state and local agencies working on prevention" as well as "an extreme lack of awareness about STDs and sexual health" and "doctors are not screening and testing for these diseases and patients [not knowing] they need to ask to be tested" [1]. The only link to HIV stated is "people are not afraid of dying from HIV," not a link to prep. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904311 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904311
  - hndamien 8y ago
    If you have a link for the genital herpes cure you will be rich.
    - uniblih 8y ago
      > If you have a link for the genital herpes cure you will be rich. May never happen [0], but one can wish. Although it doesn't have a cure, the treatability, prevalence, and general harmlessness of herpes make it less of an issue than the "curable" STDs. Most doctors don't even bother testing for it [1]. [0] https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-we-still-dont-have-a-herpes-vaccine https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-we-still-dont-hav... [1] https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/screening.htm https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/screening.htm
dillondoyle 8y ago
I have strong personal anecdotal evidence that casual hookups are much more upfront about condom-less sex and in fact I find that a shockingly high percent outright refuse condom sex (e.g. bareback only). I'm not sure if the actual condom use rate is lower (I wouldn't be surprised) but in my experience the upfront non-condom attitudes is staggering and way higher than 10 years ago. Tech, attitudes, PrEP have shifted culture and depressingly for me lowers match rates from an already tiny population in my experience by more than 50% of guys on hook up apps !
- chimeracoder 8y ago
  > I have strong personal anecdotal evidence that casual hookups are much more upfront about condom-less sex and in fact I find that a shockingly high percent outright refuse condom sex (e.g. bareback only). I'm not sure if the actual condom use rate is lower (I wouldn't be surprised) but in my experience the upfront non-condom attitudes is staggering and way higher than 10 years ago. Tech, attitudes, PrEP have shifted culture and depressingly for me lowers match rates from an already tiny population in my experience by more than 50% of guys on hook up apps ! Condom usage has been dropping for decades. It began dropping before ARVs were discovered in the 90s, and it's steadily decreased in the years before PrEP was discovered as well. There are a lot of well-studied reasons for this. So yes, you're right that fewer people are using condoms today than they were 10 years ago, but the correlation runs the other way. The search for a different prevention tool (which resulted in PrEP) was motivated by the fact that people have realized for decades that condoms were not going to be a viable long-term solution for addressing the spread of sexually-transmitted HIV.
  - dillondoyle 8y ago
    Yeah for me the big change I dont think so much is actual condom usage but the up front attitudes. 10 years ago on hookup apps if you said 'bareback only' it would have been taboo to most. But now it seems like that's acceptable and a surprisingly large percent refuse condoms period which is crazy to me. Like for this percent of users sex with a condom is worse than no sex which is what's crazy to me..

chimeracoder 8y ago

> And yet STD rates are skyrocketing in the US. I take Truvada but it’s used as an excuse in the gay commmunity to engage in unprotected sex. If anything the availability of Truvada is probably a leading cause of why STD rates in the gay community are increasing. No, STD prevalence is dropping. STD diagnoses are increasing, because PrEP requires more regular STD testing, which people weren't doing before. Please stop spreading the anti-PrEP propaganda touted by people like Michael Weinstein. It is actively damaging to public health.